& boy he needs to win
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I'm sure the problem caused by a two-party system can be fixed by adhering to a two-party system
The two party system is a symptom of the actual cause.
Although the cause is actively encouraged by the symptom.
time to tell everyone NY democrats to "Vote blue no matter who"
Yo if telling yourselves that headline is what it takes to get you dudes out there to vote for the DNC so they can get to ending Citizens United, creating fair elections maps, taxing the rich, and expanding medical coverage: power to you. Let's go!
Fuck I hope so...
No. AOC was.
AOC is going to need allies and a progressive coalition. We need to change the composition of the party from within in exactly this way. We just need way more of it.
I fervently hope so.
Every time something hopeful like this appears I start wondering if it's safe to imagine that maybe things could get better here in the US. But so far I've been disappointed over and over. Part of me wants to just skip over the "maybe something good will happen" part and get right to the "oh, well, looks like he was assassinated by a blackwater hit squad" part. Money is power. The donor class gets what they want. And I have no faith that working within the electoral system will fix that.
Is it though? Or is it wishful thinking?
Dems are cooked. Nobody is buying the old guard bullshit anymore. Embrace populism or go the way of the Whigs
Maybe, probably. They are going to gamble that they can stay the same because people are/will be so mad about... well everything.
They can prop up a white male moderate with an ounce of charisma, someone that is around 45. People will be refreshed that this candidate speaks in complete sentences and the capacity for empathy -- like a real person.
That's what they want, business as usual sold as a revolutionary idea. Will people buy it? Who knows.. groups of people are pretty dumb.
None of us are as dumb as all of us.
They are going to gamble that they can stay the same because people are/will be so mad about… well everything.
They will 100% try to do this, but they'll end up losing and then blame the voters they're maligning. Mamdani is a case-in-point difference between status quo candidate turnouts and progressive candidate turnout. The 7% delta over Cuomo is the 7% they'll lose if they try it again.
I wish. It's a clear message from the constituency, but no one ever blamed the DNC for listening ti their voters too much.
Either they listen to their voters and become a 'new' democratic party, or they'll continue bleeding numbers and die. Either way, it's still the beginning of the end.
I’m no political scientist, but I’d think he needs to win the general before this can be said.
Beating well-established Democratic royalty on their home turf by a Muslim is a pretty solid punch in the face.
He even had Clinton's endorsement. This was a very clear Fuck You to the Democratic party.
Was there actually an endorsement? All I'm finding is that Bill Clinton congratulated him on the primary victory.
Oh, I misunderstood. I thought you said he endorsed Mamdani.
It's indicative of a deep, irreversible rift in the party. Either democrats adapt or they split in half.
Agreed but this is a good start.
For sure, but we’ve seen hope like this go down the drain before. The circumstances here were favorable I think. RCV primary against an unlikable and disgraced opponent in NYC is hardly a death knell for the national corpo Dems
The realistic hope I think is that Cuomo had support from extremely wealthy backers. New York Real Estate and Wall Street, Bloomberg, all backed Cuomo.
The people said no. The money didn't swing it for Cuomo. The name recognition and the money didn't swing it for Cuomo. The dynasties didn't swing it for Cuomo.
Mamdani came in and offered real improvements to people's lives and they gave him their votes.
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I'm afraid it's too late though.
It's possible - arguably even likely - that the Dem establishment still won't get the message and will instead continue to try to con us into supporting corrupt neolib hacks and will continue to undermine actual leftists.
In fact, I sort of half expect the New York party to abandon Mamdani and instead back a write-in campaign for Cuomo.
I wish I was kidding.
Even if they show never-before-seen integrity and determination and actualy shift back toward supporting actual leftists (or get replaced by a new generation of leaders who will), I still think it's likely going to be too late. The longer Trump and his ilk remain in office, the more likely it becomes that opposing them will just get you on the next flight to some overseas concentration camp, or dead, or both.
The Democrats are going to try to ratfuck him, sure. They're never going to get the message
But this is how we clean them out. This is why AOC and Bernie are doing rallies - so that every seat that comes up is filled with a progressive. And this is a big seat
As for it being too late... Yeah, we're fucked. But we can still make things better. There's no reason to yield ground, maga is incredibly incompetent - they can be beat.
And there will be an after
I wouldn't be surprised if the establishment decides open corruption is pretty cool actually and starts trying to rehabilitate Adams' image. Seems like trying to run both Adams and Cuomo is a fools errand and Adams is stubborn enough to stay in regardless so they'll have to go with him.
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Ehhh zorhan primary win is more like first big hurtle. Now ZOHRAN has to deal with belligerent part of democratic party and independent runs
He already has, up to this point. In fact, big parts of the party tried to support his competition. They failed. He's another in AOC mould. He may be good or great but there is an increasing trickle of progressive candidates.
The more that win by being good the more that can win without being so good. He may not be the Dems saviour but he's a step in the right direction and a worrying sign for Republicans and establishment politicians.
Yeah I'm just saying there's a lot more to go even in this race alone. Just because ZOHRAN WON the primary that doesn't mean the Democrats leadership will be happy about it
Indeed, they dusted off big Bill Clinton even.
When I hear that Clinton endorsed a canidate my first thought was, who cares. That guy hasn't been in office for over 25 years now. Talk about irrelevant
It's not for us, it's for wealthier donors.
Its the Dem tradition of hierarchy, nepotism, and dynasty-slurping
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