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I'm afraid it's too late though.
It's possible - arguably even likely - that the Dem establishment still won't get the message and will instead continue to try to con us into supporting corrupt neolib hacks and will continue to undermine actual leftists.
In fact, I sort of half expect the New York party to abandon Mamdani and instead back a write-in campaign for Cuomo.
I wish I was kidding.
Even if they show never-before-seen integrity and determination and actualy shift back toward supporting actual leftists (or get replaced by a new generation of leaders who will), I still think it's likely going to be too late. The longer Trump and his ilk remain in office, the more likely it becomes that opposing them will just get you on the next flight to some overseas concentration camp, or dead, or both.
The Democrats are going to try to ratfuck him, sure. They're never going to get the message
But this is how we clean them out. This is why AOC and Bernie are doing rallies - so that every seat that comes up is filled with a progressive. And this is a big seat
As for it being too late... Yeah, we're fucked. But we can still make things better. There's no reason to yield ground, maga is incredibly incompetent - they can be beat.
And there will be an after
I wouldn't be surprised if the establishment decides open corruption is pretty cool actually and starts trying to rehabilitate Adams' image. Seems like trying to run both Adams and Cuomo is a fools errand and Adams is stubborn enough to stay in regardless so they'll have to go with him.
They already have, for years.
100%. The DNC are not our friends and havent been for a while now.
Yeah hope has security detail. I worry ICE going grab him and disappear him. Especially if it looks like he will win the general election.
It is too late for electoral politics to save democracy, if that's what you're talking about. People like Mamdani are important for the day after, but Trump will have to be deposed much like his ilk in Ukraine and Tunisia.
I'm always very intrigued by those pushing the rhetoric that it's too late to use elections to solve this, and admonish anyone that tries.
But at the same time they themselves refuse to start a revolution they insist is the only way. While simultaneously waiting for someone else to do it for them.
In the end the suggestion seems to be to not do anything and hope someone else does it for you. Be that by democratic means or armed means.
If you're not starting the rebellion you sure as hell need to be engaged with the existing democratic proccess. Otherwise you're just not doing anything at all. Which is the worst option
So first: You do realize there will likely be no free and fair elections until Trump is overthrown right? It's too late to solve this using elections because there will be no elections. You're in the equivalent of 1933 Germany after the Enabling Act, where the Act is substituted by the Republican majority in Congress and the lack of consequences for Trump doing whatever he wants.
Second and more relevantly, though: Revolutions aren't just "started;" they happen when political unrest reaches a boiling point and is given some kind of trigger. You see the protests in LA? That's building towards the revolution. A revolution can then turn violent due to violent backlash from the state, but either way it is literally impossible to "start" a revolution in the way you're talking about. I mean hell, the fall of the Bastille wasn't exactly planned; it just kind of happened. If a revolution does happen I'd put the start at the current LA protests, but I digress. The point is: To get a revolution, you don't necessarily need to grab a gun and shoot cops, but you do need to resist on the streets. Again LA is a good example of what I'm talking about, so what I'm calling for is, for starters, more of that in more parts of America. Organize among your community and in your workplace and please someone go on strike already.
PS: I'm not American, so internet forums are about as much as I can get in on the action.
Is it possible that not being American your not fully aware of all the cultural views, different groups of people and their views, etc to be making these kind of declarations?
I don't think so, no. At the pace democracy is being dismantled at in America, there is simply no possibility of a free and fair midterm. Remember that we're still not even half a year into this administration.
Maybe in our current state, where corruption can occur, but in a new, more democratic system where corruption can't occur because no single person will have enough wealth or the financial incentive to be able to buy politicians.
The problem isn't electoral politics, but that we don't live in a democracy.
I was talking more about the whole fascist takeover thing. The current batch of oligarchs and dictators has to go before you can fix anything anywhere, and by the next election cycle American democracy will be dead. The timeline simply doesn't allow for an electoral solution.
Ah, I thought you were talking about the concept of electoral politics in general and not this specific moment in the US.
Agree 1000% ~ there's not much hope left.
Looks like they already beat you. They want people to give up. You're willingness to roll over accept defeat doesn't reflect how the rest of us feel.