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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

We’re only going to get our standing back by throwing this man in prison and impeaching the corrupt supreme court. We also need to get dark money out of our politics to save our democracy.

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

and THAT

was the point. trump is attempting to destroy the country

AND it's future. So it can never be world power again

[–] Trees@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago
[–] Elkot@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had a holiday booked for this last February in the States, after Trump won the election though that holiday was cancelled and I went to Japan instead

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

If you swapped your american holiday for a trip to Japan then you are a trader. B'dum tiss. /s

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only way I can see a coming back is for the US - or rather, whatever comes after, to implement a socialist government that leapfrog's the advances of the Nordic nations. North America has tremendous resources and a great deal of land, but has always hamstrung its potential due to the 1% hoarding that bounty. In the event that the 1% are eliminated from society, it is very possible that the ordinary American could get the education and means to make themselves fulfill their potential.

Hopefully, the likes of Trump and his friends will hang out together, someday.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I looked for explanation:

Pavolini was captured after a desperate escape attempt which saw him swimming across Lake Como and then trapped in a Mexican standoff over a half submerged rock. When Pavolini ran out of bullets, he was finally apprehended and executed only under Italian law by the partisans in Dongo.[1] Before burial, his body was hung upside down in public, along with Mussolini, Mussolini's mistress Clara Petacci, the former Party Secretary Achille Starace, Nicola Bombacci and others in Piazzale Loreto, Milan.[2]

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago

Good. This country has wielded that influence like a cleaver for decades.

I'm happy to see it end.

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 61 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (22 children)

"..what matters is the targeting of essential structural elements of a nation: economy, foreign relations, and defense systems. Basically, the subverter (Russia) would look to destabilize every one of those areas in the United States, considerably weakening it."

https://bigthink.com/the-present/yuri-bezmenov/

"Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal GLOBALIST Western hegemony"

Released in the 90s, and became Russian intel agent required reading. That's just one highly relevant quote. Check the "content" section for a few eye poppers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

Feel free to google "Project Russia" next, as that was the successor to FoG.

In all reality, if the world before 2016 matters to you at all and you understand Russia has been waging a psychological war against us since the 90s and never stopped fighting the Cold War, the picture is very clear. The evidence isn't even tangential. It's blatant and it's everywhere.

We just live in post-truth... which is exactly how Russia and China live. That's why you can't talk about certain topics in China involving tanks. (Tbh I'm just tired and too lazy to google the spelling...) Russia is literally in the midst of brainwashing children its kidnapped from Ukraine.

We have traitors in office pretending Russia is our ally and directly spewing kremlin propaganda, while attacking and damaging the United States only to hand cash to their rich buddies while we are implementing a mass deportation campaign of even legal immigrants, shipping them to horrific prisons overseas. This story never gets better at this stage without getting much worse.

Wishing everyone the best... very scared for what's to come. :-)

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Great post, brother.

I have been writing about the Foundation of Geopolitics for years, and always wondered what he meant by "its special services within the borders of the United States." Then HitlerPig comes on the political scene, and it all becomes clear.

HitlerPig made his first trip to Moscow in 1987, where they were pleased to see that he could be manipulated by even the most insincere flattery, and was given the code name Krasnov. After a decade of laundering money for emerging Russian Mobsters/Oligarchs, he is being referred to as a "special service" in the Russian playbook for world domination in 1997.

And today, he is President again, a political mulligan which he intends to exploit just as much as he does on the golf course.

It is Russia's greatest victory, and they didn't have to fire a shot. They just needed a Manchurian Candidate, and HitlerPig volunteered.

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Thank you, I appreciate the positive response. I am pounding the drum as loudly & clearly as I can as time is running out. People need to see the bigger picture, instead of the 4chan reality that's overtaken the world. It's like everyone (those that don't/didn't vote or are MAGA) forgot what reality & history was like before 2016. Trump's firehose of never ending scandals and our failure to punish them fully enable this to happen.

I will say that I think that Russia planted many seeds. They in fact tell us this; in previous decades they sponsored left wing groups. However, it just so happens this time they made connections with the right wing billionaires who are willing to sacrifice our global alliances (and harm the millions of lower class people) to reshape North America in their vision. It is the perfect storm of many traitors within our government sharing a similar ideology and vision of how the country should run (oligarchy/right wing authoritarianism) & our enemies abusing this perceived shared vision to harm our democracy.

Just to hammer the point further - certain Fox News hosts (rhymes with Yucker Marlson), are known to take Russian money - as are several twitch broadcasters (primarily gamers), really emphasizing their reach. The "big think" link I provided really spells out that they used propaganda over decades to help nudge our ideology even further right, which likely just put gasoline on the fire of our failure to punish the confederates, the failure of reconstruction, & our later acceptance of Nazis (and the Nazi culture that temporarily was prominent in America.. Ford the most prominent example)

It's happening in every democracy.

Pollieviere in Canada. (Forgive spelling, again?)

Marine La Pen in France

AfD party in Germany

Bolsonsaro in Brazil

Brexit happening in the UK (also called for in FoG)

Someone else mentioned Romania, though I can't speak on that as much. I'm sure there's many more.

Propaganda to destabilize western democracies is the main weapon of China, Russia, North Korea and Iran. And Trump thinks he gets along with all of them, except maybe Xi.

I'll say once more for now: anyone denying this is a fool or a traitor. The connections aren't happening just in the US, they're happening everywhere. And the billionaire network states plan says that's exactly the point - if they can destabilize the US, they think they can do it to every democracy. What a treasure for China and Russia.

"How do you replace the current elite? You make new countries." - quote from one of the right wing billionaires showcased in "DARK GOTHIC MAGA" by Blonde Politics on YouTube. Go listen to him say it if you don't believe me. (And correct my phrasing if it's slightly off)

Not saying Trump's presidency will Balkanize the US. The tech bros think longer than 4 years. But they absolutely are working toward creating their own city states and want to Balkanize the US. Trump said it out loud -- he wants to offer up federal land for billionaires to bid on as "freedom cities." Video is easily searchable on Google. They will be run by tech billionaires, AI, surveillance & automated weapons. (See Peter Thiel's Palantir & Anduril companies, and Thiel's decades long goal of seizing power for a billionaires/monarchy. Kinda like how Thiel and Musk grew up under apartheid. Must remind them of home. Huh?)

I am going in a bunch of different directions here so I will just end on that while I strongly advocate we are directly at war with Russia and this is largely the result of decades of our enemies promoting propaganda against us, it's also only possible because of various factions of internal traitors too.

I probably could go on. The Russian connections are EVERYWHERE and I'm only able to detail certain ones in America.

Maybe I'll clean up what I'm saying here after I wake up some more. 🙃

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Awesome stuff. I was with you on the political stuff but the Tech Balkanization stuff is new to me. Now I've got reading to do.

I've been getting to know Theil a bit, through his supervising of Vance, and it has opened my eyes to a new trend among Sociopathic Oligarchs - they all want a pet politician they can keep on a leash. Its exactly the kind of thing these monsters love. They can treat them like highly expensive collectibles, human Pokemon cards, with the most valuable ones being the most powerful ones. Skum has HitlerPig on a leash, Theil has Couchfucker on a leash, Crowe has Thomas on a leash, etc. I'm sure they're all scrambing to get a collar on someone, and I'm also sure many are stretching their necks to receive one.

I'll bet they all envy Skum for being on top right now, but Theil is certainly scheming to get his pet into the Presidency. I'm expecting a 25th amendment issue at some point (if not an outright assassination).

People will cheer HitlerPig's ouster, but Couchfucker will be making moves while everyone is celebrating. He's just as dangerous as HitlerPig, maybe even more, because he won't be so erratic, or as profoundly despisable.

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

CouchFucker is directly tied into Thiel/Musk (Thiel dumped like 15mil into Vance's senate campaign), who all promote the Curtis Yarvin "dark enlightenment" ideology, which is as I already described, a movement to return the US to monarchy, and ultimately, multiple monarchies led by corporations. I know my words sound fucking nuts and like a conspiracy theory to people who aren't familiar with it... but the Blonde Politics video I referenced in the previous comment is my favorite presentation of a lot of this information.

While the title of her video can sound a bit conspiratorial, she does a great job of presenting to you actual clips of what they're saying without it being out of context. You hear THEM say that their plans are.. exactly multiple things I've said. It made me sick to my stomach the first time I watched it.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

One of the things that the Conservative Propaganda Machine has done is take any semblance of credibility out of the word "conspiracy." As soon as a responsible person hears the word conspiracy, they start picturing tin foil hats, and stop listening.

But real conspiracies do happen all the time, and are happening now, and the Dark Side is camoflaging them by surrounding them with whack-job stuff to thow us off the scent.

The difference is Ctitical-Thinking Skills. Is the theory a bunch of unrelated stuff with imagined connections between them, or are they truly connected by evidence with sources? The first is a Theory, and second is a true conspiracy.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The takeaway should be that to do business in the US, you have to bribe Trump. He's not really made a secret over the fact that he's running the country like a protection racket. Tim Cook gave $1 million to the Trump inauguration fund (that we're aware of) and Apple gets an exemption. Boeing did the same and got a fighter plane program. Small and medium businesses that can't afford bribes and import things from China? Screwed.

It's not good for the big businesses either though, that's why their stocks are still down. Because the need to pay bribes is a cost to them and will eventually sink the whole economy.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 235 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

Noooooooo shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

This is why plenty of us tried to warn people against voting for this dipshit motherfucker (not that people in a cult will listen). It's part of why it was the media's fucking job to report on how stupid his ideas were before he got fucking elected. Not necessarily The Atlantic specifically, but a lot of the media just fucking treated every insane thing he promised during the election as normal, valid, and like it could work. Total abdication of journalistic responsibility.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 113 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I don't get how people don't understand the role the media should play.

It should simply shine light on the truth and report the facts.

Instead they play politics, and abdicate that duty in favor of shock and schlock pieces.

If the media simply reported on Trump's policy discussions factually, everyone would have seen this coming, to add to your point.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is why news outlets should belong to us, not to billionaires. Jeff Bezos owning the Washington Post, John Henry owning The Boston Globe, Stanley Hubbard owning multiple local news outlets, Lee Enterprises owning 75 local newspapers, these are all HUGE problems.

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

America losing it's economic monopoly would be the greatest thing to ever happen to democracy & mankind & guess what ?

FREEEEEEDOM

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago

The president is just a figurehead of a garbage system. It's this easy to turn the system into a fascist nightmare because it was always a fascist nightmare. Literally invented by slavers.

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m so tired of morons (that aren’t me) having the power to royally fuck up my way of life.

[–] ochi_chernye@startrek.website 21 points 2 days ago

Right? As if I needed any fucking help doing that.

[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

IF we can get a very strong Congress that recaptures and then vigorously defends it's Constitutional powers, AND that goes through the trouble of codifying what used to be political norms before Trump, AND amends the Constitution as needed to put a strong leash on the Executive branch, I think it's possible we could become that anchor again.

But it took a world war and at least 25 years of concerted effort after to build that role for ourselves. Even though the Republicans have damaged or destroyed it in 3 months, it won't be rebuilt in 3 months.

[–] Ilixtze@lemm.ee 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

It is always cringeworthy to hear Americans call themselves "the world economic anchor" Or the "world police" Fucking manifest destiny, national narcissistic exceptionalism is one of the main reasons for the collapse of the US empire. At some point in the future they will need to pull their heads out of their own asses to learn some humility and humanity.

[–] djsp@feddit.org 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The expression “world economic anchor” is meant literally and factually: the United States are the world's strongest consumer market and therefore drive demand and economic activity like no other, and, more importantly, the US dollar and Treasuries serve as a reserve currency and asset, respectively, for both central banks and private investors. This arrangement is unfair, in its own macroeconomic ways that have nothing to do with exceptionalism, manifest destiny or cultural superiority, to both the rest of the world, who end up funding the United States, and common US denizens, who suffer from inflated assets.

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[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"Leader of the free world" is so arrogant and cringe

[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Regardless of how you may feel about it, that's how the governments of most other Western countries saw it. This is evidenced by US bases all over the world, low investment in national defense by most NATO countries, the dollar being the world's primary reserve currency, etc.

The diminishment of global influence and power is not because of those things, but because of domestic affairs: in the richest country in history, businesses broke the social contract with workers, the cost of health care skyrocketed as hospitals became for-profit business, and half the country was too brainwashed by consolidated media conglomerates to see what was really happening.

Basically, the libertarian values that have always been the underpinnings of American society finally reached their apotheosis at the same time the Internet and propagandist entertainment news caused the cultural fabric of society that had formerly acted as a counterweight to begin to unravel. Every man for themselves writ large. The chickens came home to roost.

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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Billionaires don't care. They'll be fine, we're the ones that have to suffer.

Thanks to republican/conservative voters.

It ain't just maga. I work with non-maga republican voters who didn't vote trump, but also didn't vote kamala, because they "just couldn't do it". These people's only issues they talk about currently, is that people steal by taking advantage of food stamps when they have expensive jewelry and iPhones, and they think Mexicans are taking jobs all over. I've heard these verbatim arguments over and over. They think dems give "too many handouts". They're stuck in there ways and can't be convinced otherwise.

They have no clue that it's Republicans who are the ones to "give handouts" to billionaires and themselves, and they're not willing to hear it.

It's not entirely that they're dumb. They ARE ignorant, but that's by design. The elites have been executing this for decades and have done a great job, in the form of propaganda, indoctrination, and shitty education.

It's hard not to think that we're just doomed.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wage theft is bigger than all other theft combined, but your coworkers probably aren't nearly so upset about that.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but it took 20 years and WWII before things actually rebounded.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

See, simple! If you're 30, you'll be 50 by the time you recuperate your investment! Easy! LOL.

[–] crossdl@leminal.space 44 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Americans no longer have the resolve to be world police, if it was right to do so in the first place. Unfortunately, that vacuum looks like it will be filled by a modern nation conducting ethnic cleansing within their borders and maybe using prisoners for organs.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not just the police. They had a lot of soft power. Just wait till countries tell them to remove their bases.

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[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They aren't even beginning a comeback until their Overton Window shifts closer to reality. Otherwise nobody isn't going to recognize them as anything but descending uncontrollably into backwater hermit state as every nation scrambles to cut ties.

At most 30% of the voting age population understood the assignment trying to prevent all this. That's certainly an indictment. The majority of the population has departed from reality. Perhaps many were never with it on account of being born too deep into the mythology of America.

The internet was supposed to expand peoples minds offering an antidote to such things as this. Instead it dug them deeper. It's crazy. Sometimes I wonder what if all this is in no small part due simply to a consequence of reactionaries getting online and seeing too much of the world. Seeing 7 billion kinds of diversity of humanity around the world beaming through their smartphone caused their brains to short circuit. Deciding that being a paranoid hermit state is better than being a nation of the world.

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I think a lack of media literacy.

Many don't ask why they're being shown what they are on TV and social media.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

in honesty, this is what PUTIN wanted with america, to weaken it so they cant distract russia from thier internal/foreign policies.

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[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The world needs to be more resilient to the policies of any one country. Therefore, the American economy must shrink, for the good of all.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 26 points 2 days ago

Isn't it fun to live during the downfall of an empire? I'll bet the Brits loved it.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

MAGA - make America grovel again

[–] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 31 points 2 days ago (18 children)

That's what scares me. We had two things; banking and the military. Now all we've got is weapons.

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