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[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 53 points 3 days ago (3 children)

They aren't even beginning a comeback until their Overton Window shifts closer to reality. Otherwise nobody isn't going to recognize them as anything but descending uncontrollably into backwater hermit state as every nation scrambles to cut ties.

At most 30% of the voting age population understood the assignment trying to prevent all this. That's certainly an indictment. The majority of the population has departed from reality. Perhaps many were never with it on account of being born too deep into the mythology of America.

The internet was supposed to expand peoples minds offering an antidote to such things as this. Instead it dug them deeper. It's crazy. Sometimes I wonder what if all this is in no small part due simply to a consequence of reactionaries getting online and seeing too much of the world. Seeing 7 billion kinds of diversity of humanity around the world beaming through their smartphone caused their brains to short circuit. Deciding that being a paranoid hermit state is better than being a nation of the world.

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@lemm.ee 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think a lack of media literacy.

Many don't ask why they're being shown what they are on TV and social media.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's Fox News... That's the elephant in the room. You can't make progress when they are propoganda masquerading as news.

The very fact that they haven't been sued into the ground or curtailed at all by the government lends them legitimacy. People believe what they see on the TV, especially if it makes them feel good.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This right here why I plan for the very real possibility of the downfall of Canada eventually too, unless Carney foes something to deal with our USA media consumption and get them out of our news media corps.

There's a lot of bravado and patriotic feelings being projected outwardly right now sure, but Maple MAGA would've been in charge if the USA didn't have their election first.

[–] ochi_chernye@startrek.website 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maple MAGA would've been in charge if the USA didn't have their election first.

You're welcome, I guess? Best of luck to you, sincerely. I really hope that Raiders of the Lost Ark villain you've got up there never gets his clammy little hands on the levers of power. It's mind-boggling how little charisma these grifters have. Really makes me question its value as a stat.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Just watch. I really don't think more CBC money will drown out the enemy who owns the majority of the media we consume. Australia is in the same precarious position under Murdoch.

Edit: by just watch I mean leading up to the next election after Carney majority wins this one.

Or the next Australian one.

Carney's already pledged to increase funding to the CBC.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

I heard "PP" was in the lead before the tariffs, he tried to double down when carney was getting a massive boost because of the tariffs.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

fox news for 50-60+ people, OAN/NEWSMAX,youtube RW grifters for the younger generations.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The majority of the population has departed from reality.

According to Ballotpedia, ~63.9% of the eligible US voting population (older than 18) turned out to vote, or ~155 mn people. This means ~36.1% didn't turn out, or ~88 mn people out of the ~243 mn total population. In 2020, the turnout rate was ~66.6% or ~158 mn, meaning ~33.4% or ~79 mn didn't vote out of the ~238 mn total population.

According again to Ballotpedia, ~77 mn voted R in 2024 (~49.8% of the voting population or ~31.8% of the total population), ~75 mn voted D (~48.3% of the voting population or ~30.8% of the total population), and ~3 mn voted 3rd party (~1.9% of the voting population or 1.2% of the total population).

In 2020, ~81 mn voted D (~51.3% of the voting population or ~34.2% of the total population), ~74 mn voted R (~46.9% of the voting population or ~31.2% of the total population), and ~3 mn voted 3rd party (1.8% of the voting population or ~1.2% of the total population).

You say majority, but clearly less than a third of adults in 2024 voted R.

I don't think we can say why the other ~88 million didn't vote. Sure, maybe some of them share a reality that diverges from the rest of the world. But we can speculate some other reasons too: maybe they were too apathetic because their party ran on issues not necessarily aligned to the views of their own, maybe they had to go to work to earn a paycheck, maybe they were turned away from the ballot box, maybe Joe Biden's approval ratings tanked and upon dropping out of the race, many people on election day still thought he was running, maybe Kamala didn't diverge enough away from Biden (or Republicans) to make a meaningful difference in voters' eyes, and maybe some of them didn't think women should be in office, with gender inequality still a prescient issue.

I liked Tim Walz's analogy in response to the Democrats' performance in 2024:

If a teacher teaches a subject, quizzes their class afterwards, and finds that less 100% of the class pass, the fault for that performance doesn't lie with the kids. The fault lies with the teacher. The teacher needs to teach concepts in multiple ways using different pedagogical methods to activate as many kids as possible.

Politicians are the same for me. If people aren't voting for you, a politician needs to speak to (and sometimes educate) the public in more ways than just one - and do so effectively.

Democrats dropped the ball this year. It still seems like they're dropping the ball in Congress. We'll see what the party does. I'd recommend they look to the progressive caucus with Bernie Sanders and AOC for the answer.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

kinda blame people like rogan,a nd Incel grifters, they convinced a large portion to vote for trump, or not at all.