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[–] crossdl@leminal.space 44 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Americans no longer have the resolve to be world police, if it was right to do so in the first place. Unfortunately, that vacuum looks like it will be filled by a modern nation conducting ethnic cleansing within their borders and maybe using prisoners for organs.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not just the police. They had a lot of soft power. Just wait till countries tell them to remove their bases.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

If I was Germany, Poland or Japan, I would probavly let the Amer cans run their bases as their power dwindles, unless there is a domestic threat. It gives you more time to build native defenses, avoids any unnecessary political conflict, and keeps the active threat to enemies.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

We defended our economic and geopolitical influence. I really don’t know how much “policing” we did from any truly moral or ethical standpoint. it’s almost all been about keeping rivals at bay in some way or another. We delivered democracy…or whatever puppet government that promised the do what we wanted…at the point of a gun more often than not. China will likely move into the US’s economic role and has been pushing that way for quite some time. As far as military intervention, we won’t be able to afford it anymore with the loss of favorable trade or other agreements. Where the US may have felt like a necessary evil to some countries allowing us to have bases or other dominant presence, those countries are probably going to start looking elsewhere or solve those issues internally and hold the US at arm’s length.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

might help to reduced the overbloated Defense budget, if the countries expelled all americans bases.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The mistake is thinking that any of that redirected budget will actually be used to help people in the US, and also not factoring in the loss of favorable trade and other soft power. Save a billion on bases, lose 2 billion in trade agreements kind of thing. These aren’t simplistic one-dimensional math problems, there are a lot of moving parts and downstream effects.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I guess it's better when the ethnic cleansing is conducted outside the country? How much money and weapons has the US supplied to Israel?

Both China and the US are horrible in their own ways. Though I guess World Police is an apt term since the police are usually corrupt and oppress the weak.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, world police is more apt than I would wish. ACAB.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

China doesn't have the capacity to fill the role of world police and probably never will.

What we will get is a more violent, dangerous world, with periodic waves of refugees.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

to be honest usa is doing the same, dint you hear that in alabama they are allowed to harvest organs by the university, of Prisoners to conduct "unethical research"

[–] crossdl@leminal.space 1 points 2 days ago

I hadn't heard about that. Do you have a particular source of reference? I'd be curious to read what you did.