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A federal judge criticized a Trump administration Justice Department lawyer who claimed they didn't have to follow the judge's oral order blocking deportations to El Salvador because it wasn't in writing.

Judge Boasberg questioned why the administration ignored his directive to return immigrants to the US. The DOJ lawyer repeatedly refused to provide information about the deportations, citing "national security concerns."

Frustrated, Boasberg ordered sworn declarations explaining what happened, quipping that he would issue a written order "since apparently my verbal orders don't seem to carry much weight."

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh snap he GRILLED him!?!? Damn! Trump is going down!!! #RESIST

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[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago
[–] stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

'You felt you could disregard it?'

Narrator: He did.

[–] quack@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago

Are we still pretending this matters anymore?

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but what could the judge even do to these DoJ staff? Throw them in jail for a few days? Trump would just pardon them, wouldn't he?

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Public/private reprimand is the first step I think. The judge could also probably suspend their license, or possibly influence their getting disbarred if the lawyer fucks up enough. Probably couldn't throw them in jail unless they were accused of a crime, but that would only be pardonable if it was a federal crime.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I’m sure they’ll cry “partisanship”, but put them in jail if relevant. I imagine at least some will be dissuaded by charges and prison even if they can count on a pardon. At least some will be kept out of politics after our four years of hell, even if they can count on a pardon. Even in the very worst case scenario where they get away with everything, legitimate charges will help cement the legacy as the most corrupt president ever.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 21 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Frustrated, Boasberg ordered sworn declarations explaining what happened, quipping that he would issue a written order "since apparently my verbal orders don't seem to carry much weight."

Written orders probably won't carry any weight either since he probably can't read even if he attempted to.

I'm waiting for people to connect the dots around my town. People's rights begin with legislation and end with judicial decision. Being that the bill of rights is being overridden by the executive branch right now, judges have said so and the executive branch is saying they don't care, it is fairly obvious the bill of rights no longer matters. So pick any amendment you like from the bill or rights, free speech, free press... Right the bear arms. Yup, gone. The conservatives nullified the right to bear arms and is cheering for it. By the time they think they should speak out about it, well they'll maybe realize they already cheered for the loss of their freedom of speech. Oops

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 51 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Show cause why I shouldn't throw your ass in the klink. That's what happens to the rest of us if we ignore a court order.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 19 points 16 hours ago (14 children)

He can’t be charged with a crime while in office or for anything he does in office. So, that’s why.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

so arrest everyone in the department that did it. EVERYONE. secretary of [thing], and everyone who might have so much as seen the command moving down the chain.

that's what a law that wasn't just an excuse to punish poor people would do.

or just fucking arrest him anyway, fuck it, if laws don't mean things, laws don't mean things. that includes his special protection.

but again, that would require the point of the law to be something other than punishing the poor.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t disagree with you, but I think we both know how this will play out. Get ready to hide in the attic.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

yeah. fuck my life. taking bets on how long I last before they kill me. ill have betting tables up in the morning.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Hmmm… what color are you? Could be a matter of months… (hopefully not)

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I wonder how long I'll survive as an Asian American...

Asian Americans are the smallest minority in the US, so that's not looking good. I'm wondering if the so called "Model Minority" sterotype would help (I mean like East Asians, specifically).

Philly btw. Hopefully Shapiro isn't fucking spineless like the rest of the dems (doubt), but like the federalism is really the only safeguard left.

[–] VanillaFrosty@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Get armed and look up your local Ironfront or indivisible chapter. You are not alone, United we stand. Divided we fall.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 1 points 3 hours ago

Indigenous aren't the smallest minority?

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I think I count as 'swarthy' and white depending on the century.

but also I'm visibly queer and very loud about lefty politics.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm. Do you live in a blue state? I hope so. You might be able to blend. Can you—is this the fucking 90s?—“butch up” for the gestapo long enough to slip away? I’m having flashbacks of the Midwest.

For me, I’m a man married to a man. I’m on a list. I’m somewhat nervous about that, but I’m white like milk an own a lot of polos and chinos, so I will have some warning before the shit hits me. Fingers crossed.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

butch up

well I have tits, so I'm not sure that would help.

I'm more worried about a neighbor reporting me.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 6 points 13 hours ago

Oh, you’re fine. They love girl on girl. (Joke)

It’s always the fucking neighbors.

[–] pixelpure@lemm.ee 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The more they let them act without any consequences for their actions shows us that the constitution means nothing nowadays. Throw him or the enablers in jail, but doing nothing means checks and balances are useless. I fear for the regular people. Power has gone to the fascists and oligarchs.

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[–] phx@lemmy.ca 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

And the "just following orders" folks?

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 83 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

He shouldn't be letting those attorneys leave the courtroom free men. Hold them in contempt and issue bench warrants for administration officials and anyone carrying out these illegal orders.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 58 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This is the only correct response, any other response means that the federal government does not in practice have checks and balances

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 43 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It also forces Trump's hand. Either publicly reveal, right now that he is an all-out dictator instead of slow-rolling it, or fold and lose any momentum he has.

If a violent revolution is needed to take him down, the sooner everyone knows about it, the better.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, slow nibbling at fascism is how the world got Hitler. Out the despot now.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 32 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

So just to be clear, this is within the domain of “constitutional crisis” that the vast majority of Americans who graduated from high school will have certainly been taught about at some point. But precisely zero major news networks or newspapers are calling it as such.

Evidently a comically dismaying proportion of us unitedstatesians need to be told when our own fucking house is on fire. And even then, 30ish% of us will deny it as the flesh melts off their own bones.

[–] Zzyzx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The US is in a constitutional crisis with situations like this, and so many people just don't seem to care or want to acknowledge that it's at that point.

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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 50 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

A federal judge criticized a Trump administration Justice Department lawyer

If this is the only consequence of having done it- I’d say they didn’t think they could, they knew they could.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Note Rubio saying they aren't going to stop, when explicitly told to by a judge. That's called sedition last I knew.

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 220 points 1 day ago (22 children)

Throw. That. Lawyer. In. PRISON. There may be no way to enforce the law on Trump himself, but make lawyers afraid to do his dirty work.

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