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A federal judge criticized a Trump administration Justice Department lawyer who claimed they didn't have to follow the judge's oral order blocking deportations to El Salvador because it wasn't in writing.

Judge Boasberg questioned why the administration ignored his directive to return immigrants to the US. The DOJ lawyer repeatedly refused to provide information about the deportations, citing "national security concerns."

Frustrated, Boasberg ordered sworn declarations explaining what happened, quipping that he would issue a written order "since apparently my verbal orders don't seem to carry much weight."

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[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 51 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Show cause why I shouldn't throw your ass in the klink. That's what happens to the rest of us if we ignore a court order.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 19 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

He can’t be charged with a crime while in office or for anything he does in office. So, that’s why.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

so arrest everyone in the department that did it. EVERYONE. secretary of [thing], and everyone who might have so much as seen the command moving down the chain.

that's what a law that wasn't just an excuse to punish poor people would do.

or just fucking arrest him anyway, fuck it, if laws don't mean things, laws don't mean things. that includes his special protection.

but again, that would require the point of the law to be something other than punishing the poor.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t disagree with you, but I think we both know how this will play out. Get ready to hide in the attic.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

yeah. fuck my life. taking bets on how long I last before they kill me. ill have betting tables up in the morning.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Hmmm… what color are you? Could be a matter of months… (hopefully not)

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I wonder how long I'll survive as an Asian American...

Asian Americans are the smallest minority in the US, so that's not looking good. I'm wondering if the so called "Model Minority" sterotype would help (I mean like East Asians, specifically).

Philly btw. Hopefully Shapiro isn't fucking spineless like the rest of the dems (doubt), but like the federalism is really the only safeguard left.

[–] VanillaFrosty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Get armed and look up your local Ironfront or indivisible chapter. You are not alone, United we stand. Divided we fall.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 1 points 2 hours ago

Indigenous aren't the smallest minority?

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I think I count as 'swarthy' and white depending on the century.

but also I'm visibly queer and very loud about lefty politics.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm. Do you live in a blue state? I hope so. You might be able to blend. Can you—is this the fucking 90s?—“butch up” for the gestapo long enough to slip away? I’m having flashbacks of the Midwest.

For me, I’m a man married to a man. I’m on a list. I’m somewhat nervous about that, but I’m white like milk an own a lot of polos and chinos, so I will have some warning before the shit hits me. Fingers crossed.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

butch up

well I have tits, so I'm not sure that would help.

I'm more worried about a neighbor reporting me.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Oh, you’re fine. They love girl on girl. (Joke)

It’s always the fucking neighbors.

[–] pixelpure@lemm.ee 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The more they let them act without any consequences for their actions shows us that the constitution means nothing nowadays. Throw him or the enablers in jail, but doing nothing means checks and balances are useless. I fear for the regular people. Power has gone to the fascists and oligarchs.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And the "just following orders" folks?

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 2 points 13 hours ago

I’m in the guillotine crowd, so I say “everyone,” but I’m not holding my breath there will be any.

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

So the second amendment is our only option?

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Going to amuse me when the left picks up the 2nd amendment they have been talking shit about my whole life and use it for its intended purpose to kill a tyrant. This whole timeline makes my brain hurt

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Unless you’ve got another option….

[–] witten@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You guys are maybe being a little hasty... Many other members of the Trump administration can get forcibly hauled into court even if Trump has "immunity."

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Let me know when that happens.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And let me know when you second amendment types actually do something. 👍

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You mean the people who wish death on people who are absolutely destroying humanity? Or, gun people? Because, I don’t own a gun. 🤷‍♂️

[–] witten@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Both. I just think the "oh well we must immediately escalate to bloodshed" people are only serving to worsen the situation because it skips over all the other legitimate ways we have of fighting back, like protest and the courts. Ways that a bigger portion of the populace is willing to participate in (currently). And right now we need everyone who's reasonable resisting in any way they can.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I seriously hope you’re right. I’d rather not see a bunch of people die. But I haven’t seen anything at all to suggest the usual ways are gonna work, and by the time we realize that it will be too late (if it’s not already).

Give me hope, tell me something that is actually going to stop them and is likely to work.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

No single thing is going to fix this. It's going to take a concerted effort of protests and economic boycotts and judges doing their job and elected officials doing their job and the fucking media doing their job and public sentiment souring further on Trump and people refusing to follow unlawful orders and yes maybe even a little direct action. Not all of it is going to work and not all of it has to work. My only point here is we can't just think there's a single silver bullet (pun intended) because that breeds inaction for all other forms of resistance. We each need to find a way to resist and do that instead of waiting for somebody who isn't coming to save the day.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Okay so literally nothing. Just lots of “resist” with no actual directions or suggestions. You can see we’re fucked, you just don’t want to admit it because you’re not the violent kind (not a bad thing under normal circumstances, I’m not insulting).

But you’ve really just outlined my whole problem. If the pacifists can’t actually announce a believable plan, this time they need to step aside.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

If you think that list of ways to resist are "nothing," then there's nothing more I can tell you. Good luck with your sitting around and waiting for violent revolution.

And I never said I was a pacifist. I said it takes multiple types of resistance to effectively counter fascism.