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Senate Republicans do not have enough votes for cloture, a legislative procedure to end debate and move for a vote. Republicans only have a 53-47 seat majority, and 60 votes are needed to invoke cloture. If Democrats don’t provide enough votes for cloture, the government is almost certainly headed toward a shutdown Friday.

Despite promising a fight, Senate Democrats are reportedly considering a vote swap. In exchange for providing enough votes to end debate on the GOP spending bill, Senate Republicans would allow a Democratic amendment to continue to fund the government at current levels for the next month to come to the floor, known as a continuing resolution, or CR. The Democratic amendment is almost certain to fail.

Democrats opposed to the GOP bill would then be allowed to vote “no” on the broader spending bill, allowing them to seem like they’re voting against the GOP measure despite providing the needed support to bring it to the floor. Democrats have criticized the GOP plan, which would give Musk and Trump more power to slash the federal government and also cut $1 billion from Washington, D.C.’s local budget.

Nina Smith, a Democratic strategist, said this kind of wheeling and dealing is exactly why Americans have lost faith in the party.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 16 points 6 hours ago

Chuck is a schmuck.

You don't negotiate people who have a proven history of not dealing in good faith.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's exactly like Collins and Manchin. They put up a big show of fighting and then just vote for it anyways.

The DNC must be abolished if this is their version of opposing the destruction of our civil service.

[–] DesertHermit@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Seriously. They honestly think that they can help move along and destroy the country and that 1) everyone will forget in 18 months that they voted to capitulate and won't remember if they voted for a shutdown, and 2) that they will STILL easily pick up wins in 2026 if they capitulate.

[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

Why the hell do dems think republicans are just gonna play nice? And why vote for this fucking bill? Are they idiots?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago

God, fucking useless.

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 hours ago

We have tried to tell liberals for decades this is what their party is. And they kept punching left when they should have been listening

[–] RainbowHedgehog@lemm.ee 68 points 13 hours ago

I’m so fucking angry at this. They all have to fucking go.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 47 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

These fuckers are so spineless. It's no wonder the US has gone full fascist.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 hours ago

Schumer has a spine. Granted it's only when working class people try to enforce the rules on him.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 89 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Aaaannndd......

There's the predicted/expected fold.

Continuing to help with Chump's agenda at every opportunity.

Fucking feckless spineless wimps demonstrating once more they are not here for the fight, they are not here to attempt to save democracy, they are not here to help us.

In fact, I've no longer any idea what actual use Dems are anymore. 🤦‍♀️ 🤷‍♂️ 🖕 🖕

[–] MooseyMoose@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's long been said that the Democratic Party is the place that movements go to die. I have believed it since I started paying attention to politics in the late 80s and it has only gotten worse. Talked myself blue in the face about it for literal decades and was met with denial or the equivalent of people plugging their ears and going "NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH I CAN'T HEEEEEAR YOU!" And here we are today. I hate being proven correct.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 2 points 6 hours ago

"Always vote blue." AKA, Stockholm syndrome. I always hated seeing people say that independently minded people are terrible for voting against the Geronocrats.

This is where unwavering loyalty has lead us: betrayal.

[–] sgtpugg@lemmy.ml 28 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

They couldn't do worse if they tried.

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

We need to revisit this comment in five years. They will do worse.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago

Doing nothing at this point would be better.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 13 hours ago

They sold us out long ago.

[–] mysterioussaola@lemmy.world 49 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Literally so embarrassing for them. I just don't understand what they're doing at all

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

This article headline claims the opposite of what it sources state:

"I think we're going to all be 'no' on cloture unless we get an agreement to propose at least this 30-day clean [continuing resolution] amendment and maybe a couple of others," Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia told reporters Thursday morning. "So we'll be 'no' on cloture unless we get an agreement to do that. I'm not aware of whether the Republicans have agreed to that yet, but we'll be 'no' on cloture if we don't get it, and I think that's a unified position."

"There's basically one path to keep the government from shutting down and one door to unlock, and Democrats have the keys," he said. Thune filed cloture on the House-passed measure Thursday night, setting up a Friday vote.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

No, that's factually synonymous with what this article is stating, just a difference in presentation.

To rephrase Kaine's comment with this article's perspective

"I think we're going to all be 'no' on cloture unless we get an agreement to [at least allow us to have this fake fight, then, yeah, enough of us will flip yes to get it across the finish line].

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

[at least allow us to have this fake fight, then, yeah, enough of us will flip yes to get it across the finish line]

But this part was entirely made up and not stated by the source.

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 14 hours ago

Schumer has to go

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 26 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The fossils are selling us out. We’re fucked in a way that has no precedent.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 7 points 11 hours ago

They like trip and his plan. They’re complicit.

[–] StayDoomed@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If you are commenting or reacting, take the 2 minutes to call your senators and tell them how useless Democrats are showing themselves to be. 5calls.org.

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

If you haven't figured it out, they don't listen to us

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago

I knew the corporate dems would cave. Especially Gutless Chuck do-nothing Schumer.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 15 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

My expectations are in the basement at this point. And yet, they still fail to meet them. Jesus fuck.

This spineless, gormless, feckless idiocy shouldn’t surprise or disappoint me any more at this point, but here we are. I must admit to feeling spikes of fury at the thoroughly manifest incompetence of our “opposition party”.

[–] graycube@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

AOC should have run against him when she had the chance.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This country still has centrists (GOP lite) for some reason. The Democratic party would spend as much money as they need to make her lose.

[–] hyperhopper@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Or illegally collude like they did to Bernie.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago

Morally bankrupt to say the least

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 hours ago

No, it wasn't. Political parties have no true legal requirements to hold primaries or anything such thing. They are private clubs that get to set the rules.

Primaries allow for the illusion of choice.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 14 hours ago

Great, we have a coalition in power. Except that coalition is formed of the Nazi party and the Democrats who capitulate to their every whim

[–] LetMeShowYouAThing@sh.itjust.works 10 points 13 hours ago

The primaries will be a blood bath for Democrats. I’ll bring the bath bombs and soap for the bubbles.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 10 points 14 hours ago

Dems roll over at the promise of a belly rub

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 9 points 14 hours ago

Primary them all.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This is what "vote blue no matter who" gets us.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 hour ago

Well we knew dems sux its the gop that suxed more and shouldn't even have a chance. Vote blue until no more red.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 9 points 14 hours ago

Democrats need youthful leaders who are actually willing to work.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

Democrats are enabling again. Why do we even have 2 parties at this point

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 12 points 15 hours ago

What what that about not both sides again

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

JFC WTF GFY U POS.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Its like they literally never want to win an election again.

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago

I've said for years our goal is to never win an election, but to keep leftists from winning.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

If we somehow make it through this all these fucking spineless democrats need to be held accountable for enabling these traitors and recalled.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Mind cluing the rest of us in on your 4D chess plan, Democrats?

[–] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I actually can kind of see what they're doing? So what's the strategy here? Are they wanting to do the cloture and move for a vote to the floor? But then that would mean that they are hoping GOP is going to flip that would ultimately push to a shut down. They're really hinging on GOP to have enough non-Trump loyalists to do that but I can't really see it happening.

So yeah this kind of shit is also what is caving faith in for democrats.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 12 points 14 hours ago

You're overthinking it. They don't in any way expect Republicans to sink a Trump bill. Hell, they already have a yes vote from Fetterman. They just want to lose without it looking like full complicity.

The Republicans could have made this a majority vote. They get a few of those each year, but they didn't want to blow one on a continuing resolution. Luckily the Democrats are here to give them that for free.

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 6 points 15 hours ago

Make Repubs cave - obstruct obstruct obstruct!

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