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The UK's Online Safety Act doesn't just age-gate porn; it blocks material deemed "harmful" to minors. Days after the law went into effect, reports of non-explicit content on social media getting blocked in the region started to crop up. Subreddits from r/IsraelCrimes to r/stopsmoking are now walled in the UK. Video games, Spotify, and dating apps have instituted or will institute age checks.

Given the SCOTUS age verification decision [June '25], Stabile fears that people [in the US] will go "mask off" in the fall and spring, when state legislatures start getting back together. "People are going to attempt to restrict the internet even more aggressively," Stabile said. "I think people are going to work to restrict all sorts of content, particularly LGBTQ content, but also content that is broadly defined as any sort of threat or propaganda to minors." Other experts Mashable spoke to agree with him.

"I'm going to jump to the end step," [Eric Goldman, law professor at the Santa Clara University School of Law] said. "The end step is that most online users are going to be required to age authenticate most of the time they visit websites. That's going to become the norm." In a paper he wrote, Goldman called these statutes "segregate-and-suppress" laws.

The stated reason behind these laws is to "protect children." But as journalist Taylor Lorenz pointed out, in the UK, age verification is already preventing children from accessing vital information, such as about menstruation and sexual assault.

"When we see crackdowns on spaces on the internet, we're essentially stripping away that potential for self-actualization," Goldman said. We've reached the dystopian stage of the internet, he added.

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[–] Yezzey@lemmy.ca 3 points 48 minutes ago

We have the dark web as backup.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 hours ago

"This isn't the end of a battle," he said. "This is the beginning of one."

I love that line so much, it goes hard and is kinda punk as fuck.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

"Poorly Implemented Attempt to Censor Porn will Ruin Corporate Internet"

There, FTFY

[–] quick_snail 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

It literally only* affects corporate websites.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I knew what you meant to say, and now I'm left wondering how clumsy my fingers must be if I can accurately read a typo where 75% of the letters are wrong.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago

It was porn watching that initially pushed the internet technology to be better. Everything comes full circle.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

or we could just ban their ip range from every website idk

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 hours ago

The first time this PII is leaked about some politician's online search history, it will all get repealed.

Wanna stop this? Get some whale to buy up the data and find people pushing this shit and any mass adoption for these things will die. Politicians like to eat up religious lobbyist's shit until it's used to expose their less savory activities to the greater population.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 8 hours ago

UK isnt so puritanical as the US, the sudden shift is very suspect of the actors behind these legislations all over the world.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 29 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Until they ban Tor there will always be porn available.

This isn't about protecting children.

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 8 hours ago

It never was. But that is hard to discuss. I remember when I still was young and went to house parties decades ago when my country discussed yet again some measures "to protect the children", don't recall exactly what, you found lots young people who of course couldn't be against protecting the children. How could you be against that? It's such a shitty way to get these things through.

[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 36 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The very instant a website wants me to verify my age by providing PII, I’ll just blacklist that website from my network. There isn’t a single website that I can’t go without.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What if it ends up being all discussion boards?

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Oh no, where can I go in order to be made to feel outraged by chronically online children, bots, and foreign intelligence services.

/s

[–] Sonor@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, blacklist those goobers too

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 49 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Remember, according to the UK government you're legally able to have sex, give birth, choose your future, and (soon?) vote at 16. Heaven forfend if you see a pair of titties though, you're not mature enough for that...

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

You can have sex, but you better not look!

I'm not against a bit of spice, but blindfolds at 16 just seem a little advanced. Especially when sex at that age is akin to a oblong peg in a tesseract shaped hole of unknown location.

[–] Technoworcester@feddit.uk 1 points 24 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago)

oblong peg in a tesseract shaped hole of unknown location

Thanks for that. I just spat out my coffee and laughed a little too hard.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

No no you're missing the point. It's not that you can't look, you just have to tap the gubmint on the shoulder so they can watch you look

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

"I’m fairly sure if they took porn off the internet, there’d only be one website left, and it’d be called Bring back the porn!"

- Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 64 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

We need to purge our society of these genital obsessed religious extremists

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

genital obsessed religious extremists

A lot of these people are pedophiles just like the owner class so it makes sense why they always get good representation

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

When they've been in Power for so long pedophilia becomes an elite norm.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We should haul them into public arenas and feed them to lions. They get off to that sort of thing.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Lions are boring. I wanna see the fanatics fight hippos and a pissed off rhino.

I'm thinking hyaenas.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 208 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (18 children)

Age verification isn't really age verification: it's identity verification. And once you have given your identity to one or two websites, data brokers will ensure that all your other activity on the internet will eventually be tied to it. Burner devices and anonymous VPNs could help, but only until those become illegal too.

This will have a chilling effect on not only every kind of discourse the fascists hate, but also political organization and people's ability to resist. You won't be able to organize a protest online without the police knowing in advance who is likely to come and finding a pretext to intimidate or pre-arrest them, or just be ready for them when they show up.

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