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[–] Phineaz@feddit.org 257 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But isn't that what the first poster is playing on? It would certainly lower the chance of transmitting a virus

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 102 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yep, plus better 5G coverage for the rest of us too...

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But better 5G coverage increases chance of transmitting a virus...

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Only to anti-vaxxers, so we're good 👍

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You can't vaccinate against computer viruses.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

There is a new vaccine, it's called Linux

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[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 231 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I think the commenter in the picture was wooshed

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Also, it's bothering me that it's not immediate.

If he was going to be wooshed, he could at least get the details right...

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 18 points 5 days ago

I think a healthy body could survive a single instantaneous disappearance of current mRNA, as long as the mechanisms to create more mRNA remain functional. All cells would just respond to new conditions more slowly and less effectively for a few minutes to hours, leaving the body vulnerable to disbalancing conditions such as infections. Some cells would die but most of them can be replaced in days.

On the other hand, deleting DNA (and thus preventing the creation of RNA) cannot be survived. A great exploration of such scenario is in the No More DNA chapter in What If? by Randall Munroe: the syptoms would be like eating an Amanita mushroom such as the "Destroying Angel", whose amatoxin prevents DNA transcription, or acute gamma irradiation. The patient is fine for a few hours (or less with a theoretical DNA wipe), then start exhibiting cholera-like symptoms (vomiting, abdominal pain, diarrhea), then they start to feel better. However, at that point, since cells can't divide, immune system collapse or systemwide organ failure is inevitable.

[–] gitamar@feddit.org 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Simon is a communicator/influencer/pr guy from Bayer advising for science. He's doing a lot of meme stuff on LinkedIn. He has a science background so I think the shortening is just for effect

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[–] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 93 points 5 days ago

that's the joke, no?

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Came here to say this.

She's technically correct, the best kind of correct.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 67 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, and you can't spread diesease while you're dead, can you Simon?

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

unfortunately you can, just not as effective as living people do.

[–] m4xie@lemmy.ca 24 points 5 days ago

Still "greatly reduce".

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Certain temperatures can completely denature viruses like HIV and covid. Anything above 600 degrees should do the trick.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

600 degrees Celsius or Fahrenheit?

I'm not sure it matters, bluntly.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

First one, then the other.

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[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Kelvin could do the trick too.

Rankine might be a little more iffy though...

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Ran the numbers. 600 °R is about 60 °C, so not that much...

Meanwhile, while we're still on antiquated units, 600 °Ré (degrees Réamur) is about 750 °C, so that will definitely do the trick

[–] soft@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago

that's the joke

[–] halvar@lemy.lol 47 points 5 days ago (3 children)

i thought that was the point

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[–] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 50 points 6 days ago

Think of the illnesses you could avoid if you removed your blood!

[–] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wow they got our bodies addicted to mrna and now if we take them out we will die??!!!??

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago
[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 50 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

This is how amatoxins from mushrooms kills you. They shut down mRNA synthesis in the liver.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 38 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The amanitin toxin is heat stable, remaining toxic whether eaten raw or cooked. The mechanism of action of amatoxin is by inhibiting RNA polymerase, causing disruption of transcription of mRNA. As a result, hepatocytes cannot synthesize key protein coding genes, leading to the disintegration of nucleoli and pathologically centrilobular hepatic necrosis. This leads to the insidious onset of liver failure over 48 hours. Late onset (more than six hours after ingestion) of vomiting and watery diarrhea occur due to the second component in some of these mushrooms which are phallotoxin. Lepiota species lack phallotoxins so may not have the onset of vomiting and diarrhea until after 12 hours post-ingestion, or may just present with symptoms of liver failure at 24 hours post ingestion.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK431052/

Wow ok 😬

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Well, heat stable to a point, though not sure how tasty mushroom ashes would be

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[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I love reading about Death Cap mushrooms and their cousin, Destroying Angel. By the time symptoms appear, you've already got irreversible damage. Specifically for Destroying Angel, as of 2016 there was about a 50 percent survival rate, but by 2023 that number had jumped to 85-90%. There's no antidote. Mostly treatment is to hydrate the absolute fuck out of you so that you're peeing out the toxin and pumping you full of electrolytes. The key to survival is detecting it as soon as possible.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 5 days ago (13 children)

Waitaminute. Are you telling me there are stupid people on the internet talking about things they don't understand?

The internet is the worst thing we've ever done to ourselves. I mean, it was fine at first. But we didn't have enough cynicism to account for what corporations would do with it and that's, sadly, our own fault for being too naive.

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 8 points 5 days ago

We also underestimated the number of idiots in the population. Or their ability to find little niches in which to congregate.

[–] Landslide7648@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is a joke. Have you considered the possibility that you are the stupid person in this case?

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[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I like us building alternatives on the internet. The fediverse makes me hopeful again.

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[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I actually wonder how long it would take to notice if all your mRNA stopped working.

I don't think neuron action potentials rely directly on mRNA, so I think you'd be able to keep thinking for a bit, and probably moving your muscles too. The closest comparable thing is people that received massive radiation doses (can't make new RNA out of shredded DNA) and in those cases it takes a bit before you start melting.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 20 points 5 days ago

I think it would be comparable to situation where all mRNA is suddenly unusable, ie protein synthesis can't run at all. This would be something like ricin or diphteria toxin poisoning, but instead of being limited to gastrointestinal lining it's spread all over. I'd guess hours to days before anything visible starts happening (symptoms only start to appear when deficit in new protein synthesis becomes noticeable; all protein already made continues to work for sone time)

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago

Transcription + translation response time to stimulus is on the hour scale. So it wouldn't be instant. But if your other RNA buggered off then I have no idea. The non-mRNA.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think I would prefer immediate death, thanks.

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think everyone who wants all of their mRNA removed from their bodies should be allowed to do that

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[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The person doesn't know how viruses work

[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago

I mean killing a major portion of all viruses will stop transmission. So would killing the person. Exactly how drinking bleach kills the virus.

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

Someone is flexing his additional chromosomes.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago

While you’re at it, can you take out all the acid and all the chemicals?

[–] underisk@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago

This is the kind of person that falls for the Dihydrogen Monoxide meme.

Ssshhhhh don’t tell them

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago

First they fixate over protein metrics, and now they don't want the actual protein synthesis? Having high intake of amino acids was already not doing most of what they claimed, but now we're just gonna have our body not even use them? What a waste of resources. 0/10 (/s)

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