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Contrary to what left-wing optimists had hoped, Democratic nonvoters in 2024 appear to have been less progressive than Democrats who voted. For instance, Democratic nonvoters were 14 points less likely to support banning assault rifles, 20 points less likely to support sending aid to Gaza, 17 points less likely to report believing that slavery and discrimination make it hard for Black Americans, 17 points more likely to support building a border wall with Mexico, 20 points more likely to support the expansion of fossil fuel production, and, sadly for economic populists, 16 points less likely to support corporate tax hikes (though this group still favored corporate tax hikes by a three to one margin). Overall, nonvoting Democrats were 18 points less likely to self-identify as “liberal” or “very liberal.” Here is a point for the centrists.

After spending months blaming actual leftists, it turns out it was just regular Democrats that were okay with giving Trump the presidency.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The DNC is 100% aware what lost them votes.

Kamala lost votes because nobody besides DNC leadership voted for her to be the pick, she also lost a lot of votes for the crime of being a colored woman in a bigot country.

And they are in a pickle, because doing things that will get them those votes in the long run means their rich masters make less free money than the previous quarter.

We really need a leftist party we can ditch the DNC for

[–] Soulg@ani.social 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

While it certainly contributed, there are far greater reasons she lost than just being a black woman.

Completely dropping her initial messaging about being anti corporate, stopping Walz from his clearly successful rhetoric of just calling them weird, not doing enough media appearances, etc

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

If you look at the largest demographics that voted for Biden but stayed home for Kamala it was white men/women, and hispanic men.

The two canidates had identical policies.

So more than any time in US history we were able to accurately see that yes, less people voted for her because she was a woman and colored.

[–] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 21 points 6 days ago

Over 4 million voters were disenfranchised during the election.

Don't forget this part.

[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I’m starting to think fear and anger is just the biggest factor in US politics. When your party is in charge, you get complacent and tune out. However, the other party’s media ecosystem whips up fear and anger which drives turn out. And, vice versa when the other party is in charge. It’s why the US swings back and forth constantly. It’s just volatility built into the system and when certain norms breakdown, the volatility becomes more pronounced. We are very much at risk of going off the rails. People need to turn out even when they aren’t outraged at the current administration. They need to turn out even when their side did just okay.

[–] WhiteRabbit@lemmy.today 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It’s true, not just for the U.S. either. And the biggest topics are always economy and immigration. At the end of the day, people will vote for what’s perceived as safety and security, a return to “the old times when things were better.” They will sacrifice freedoms for it. That trade is of course, a lie. And that’s how fascists get voted in, by preying on that fear.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

That implies that each party has its own media ecosystem, and they're equally effective. But there is almost no center-left or leftist media in the US with any reach at all.

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Democrats are center right. They work for billionaire and Israel. Used to be a party that supported working class and was anti war/anti genocide. People moved on. 2028 will be the same. They have not learned. Most of are done with voting the least worse.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 days ago

Oh, you know, just centrist politics things.

Is this real?

Since when has "left" politics started to care about seemingly everything except economic factors? As a medium-interested person in US politics, it easily seems that lots of issues were brought up, but the one central issue, which is to tax the rich and give handouts to the people, fell short. That's the one thing that i actually care for, goddamnit.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

By no show they mean the DNC managed to produce non viable candidates for another election, correct?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

After spending months blaming actual leftists, it turns out it was just regular Democrats that were okay with giving Trump the presidency.

It was everyone who didn’t vote. People claiming to be ‘actual leftists’ spent a lot of time shitting on voting in general and voting for Harris in particular (Lemmy skews solidly left, so that’s not a good representation of all non voters, though.) But everyone has a duty to show up and vote. They didn’t. And now chaos and, yes, fascism, is ruling just as we all said it would.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

It's like how you wouldn't stamp out a fire in your own house because you're upset of how your neighbour treats his kids. Then complain that you have no home now and blame it on the fire. Jfc.

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