As I recall, it was important to punish the Biden administration for their role in assisting Israel.
As it turns out, there are severe consequences to ignoring absolutely every warning that Trump would be worse.
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With regards to Israel / Palestine, watching this unfold under Biden reminded me of the scene in Saving Private Ryan where the one soldier was going "shhh" while pushing a knife into the other soldier. And someone else watching but not doing anything about it.
Remember that Biden flat out lied to the American public. He will be remembered for his complicity in genocide, and there is absolutely nothing he can do to prevent this legacy. History is written by the victors, but younger generations get the last word.
Trump is certainly worse for Americans, and I voted with this in mind, but both sides are fucking awful for Palestinians. Lest we forget Chuck "my job is to keep the left pro-genocide" Schumer.
Although not voting was the wrong move, It's important to hold the democrats accountable imo. They essentially lost the election because they considered genocide more important then their consituents.
The fact is that Gazas fate would have been the same under both party. The way forward is to demand change from the democratic party to avoid such scenarios. Blaming voters implies it wasnt the democrats at fault in the first place for pushing apathy and genocide as their main platform. Even worse, it implies genocide somehow shouldnt be a voting issue.
The hell it would have. To say that the fate of Gaza would have been the same is absolute horseshit.
Democrats lost the election because a bunch of shitheel Muricans decided to stay home.
It's our fault and fuck y'all for trying to blame Democrats for not inspiring people to protect marginalized groups.
Dems suck but so does the general population that refuses to take any responsibility for their part in making this happen.
If you need a god damn politician to inspire you to think beyond yourself, you fuckin suck and are trash.
Over it.
Edit: I'm not responding to any more of you kids who are trying to justify sitting on your asses. None of you have helped save a single Palestinian life.
You're just spoiled Americunts who think you're superheroes for doing nothing
There's absolutely no evidence that Harris getting elected would have done fuck all for Palestine.
Democrats lost because a lot of people who voted for Biden in 2020 voted for Trump in 2024. This was due to a perception of a majority of voters that Trump was going to do a better job on the economy, immigration, and foreign policy.
When you look at the polling data, the genocide of Palestinians does not rank high at all, even among Democrats.
Stop blaming people for what they do with their vote. That's the entire fucking point of a democracy. Hold the right people accountable for thinking they could coast to victory on a strategy of "not being Trump".
Except instead of talking about building a resort in Gaza, she wanted a two state solution.
I will blame people for a moral failing all I want. Y'all decided to latch on to ONE issue and didn't give a shit who was harmed because of it, because suddenly, after over half a century of genocide, NOW you gave a shit
You did what the algorithm wanted you to do, and you don't care who got hurt or is currently in El Salvador, because hey, at least your shit don't stink
My trans son says "fuck you".
You are a wannabe. You don't give a shit about genocide. Because if you did, you'd do everything you could to save lives.
But instead you decided it was morally superior to let Trump in.
You're all bastards who have put my loved ones in danger.
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Not if you don’t admit it to yourself and others!
Let's be real, the Biden administration didn't achieve one single thing to slow things down. While they wagged a finger with one hand, they handed over billions of dollars of bombs with the other. They arranged peace talks that Israel super super promised they'd finally show up to this time and then didn't for the seventh consecutive time in a row, and the Biden administration went "okay" and handed them more bombs. Maybe Trump is objectively worse, but it's hard to imagine that a Harris presidency would be meaningfully better in this particular regard based on the actions, not the words, of the Biden administration.
Edit: to be clear, I voted for Harris, because I still wanted to reduce harm, but I really was expecting the older, more powerful, more pro-genocide voices in the party to be steering the wheel here, not Harris.
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What gives them the authority to "plan" the lives of 1 million people halfway across the globe?
77,302,580 stupid assholes and the world's most powerful military.
Exactly. I want to know how and why anyone would think that this is ok.
Who's gonna stop them?
Who’s gonna stop them?
The first line (diplomacy):
Several factions in the Libyan government have warm relations with Turkey. Turkey has so far antagonized with Israel over the matter of Gaza. It's not hard to predict that factions in the Libyan government, upon Trump's likely blackmail (he can do little else) to accept the deportation of million ethnically cleansed Palestinians, would receive a phone call from their Turkish, Quatari, Algerian and Pakistani backers, telling them to "stop discussing that nonsense" and asking them to reject Trump. So, most likely the Libyan government will fail to reach a consensus.
The second line (politics):
The Libyan parliament will not support it. Parliament may remove the government if it's doing something unpalatable
The third line (war):
Libyan people will not support it. Various factions may rebel again and restart the civil war if they see the government acting seriously against their wishes.
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This is genocide. What's more is that even if Israel annexes all of Gaza and the West Bank, people are kidding themselves if they think they're going to stop there.
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"It couldn't possibly get worse"
Fuck's sake. I want to cry.
Some people have no imagination...
Deficient, juvenile, and narcissistic. And they make all the marginalized groups they claim to defend suffer for it.
I'm betting this isn't even about Palestine.
This is to give the US military experience with mass deportations/genocide (look up the definition of genocide, mass deportations are included in the definition) and to dull them to the idea of doing it domestically.
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Sure am glad DOGE found all this money for the racist fucks to do things like this. Fuck Elon and the talking Cheeto.
I haven't seen any evidence DOGE has saved any money at all. Most if not all estimates say his cuts to the IRS increased the deficit despite all his other cuts.
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Send the Israelis to Libya instead
While I don’t think it does us any favors to front-load any plans for the future with “just send to ”, it’s also good to point out that a chunk of them are originally from Libya in the first place.
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Literally taking notes from the nazis...
Not so fun fact, but the nazis based a lot of their shit on the US's treatment of native Americans, and slaves!
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Trump administration working on final solution to the Palestinian problem
Nothing btonsee here people, just a government working diligently on genocide, nothing to see here
Trail Of Tears mk2? Mk probably much more than that by now.
Take the Palestinians in and we will release your own money.
Libya: “yeah sure we’ll home them…”
Well, at least the Palestinians living in Michigan now know where the administration is going to send them.
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This is quite literally genocidal intent. The US is a rogue state at this point.
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