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[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The really irritating thing to me is seeing the Trumpanzees mock Canada, talking like this is the end of Canada as a country.

No self-awareness, no realization that Trump's policies are the direct cause of this. They can't conceive of any way to advance their interests beyond people just abasing themselves before Trump.

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Trumpanzee - I'm nicking that!

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[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (6 children)

Canada has had 0.7% per capita GDP growth since 2015. Which puts us 2nd last only to Luxembourg in all 38 countries of the OECD.

We elected a person who said oil needs to stay in the ground in their book, who wants to grow population at more than 450k a year (1% cap, plus births) to prop up GDP despite the current high unemployment and the severe housing shortage, and who wants to join Germany and the UK in spinning up solar and wind which clearly did not go well for either of them.

https://newsletter.doomberg.com/p/let-ed-run-it

Through that lens I could see how they could be fearful of Canada's demise, especially if we have another 10 years like the last. Gross government debt also somehow doubled since 2015 as well to achieve this lethargic growth, before subtracting pensions to create the net debt figure the government generally uses.

Then theres yesterdays Alberta separation fear with bill 54, and the fact Alberta contributes significantly more to Ottawa than any other province. As tariffs have a chance to wipe out manufacturing and you'll be asking Alberta to contribute even more to fund unemployed auto workers and the like, after some provinces block Alberta's access to new trade routes, I could see some clear catalyst for separation. Which would put Canada in a deeply negative current account balance and would be the end of Canada as we know it now.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/understanding-albertas-outsized-contribution-to-confederation-infographic-thb.jpg

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[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

The expressions are correct. It was waaay too close for comfort.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago

Sure, sure, but, if politics were sane, Carney would have been the conservative nominee and there would have been no fear of fascism.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Canadian conservatives are 40% of the voters. That's already way to much. And they using the trump book more and more: lie, lie and blame the left for fucking anything, some things will sticks. Even if I'm glad he was elected to deal the american shit show, the guy is still a fucking banker who's first action was to remove the carbon taxe. While we have to deal with the toddler from south who wants to annex us, the climate crisis wont fix itself magically.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

I'm ashamed of some of the regions of Québec that voted Conservative. Being from rural Montérégie but now living in Montréal is like two different worlds when it comes to politics. The riding where most of my family lives was won by the Bloc Québecois but followed by the Conservatives. The riding next to it was won by the Conservatives.

I hate to admit it, but if it were not for the Bloc Québecois, there would probably be even more people here voting for the Conservatives.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 34 points 1 day ago (20 children)

I already see Canadian tankies complaining about how right-wing Carney is.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 75 points 1 day ago (11 children)
  1. fuck tankies
  2. i DO think it is fair to lament that the state of the world has anyone in a place where they must strategically vote for a fucking banker to protect you from something worse
[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Canadian Overton Window shifts to the right, regardless.

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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I mean the guy is a straight laced professor of economics who wrote his thesis on the advantage of competition. He's not exactly a working class hero. However, it could have been way worse and anyone who can't see that just needs to look at the US to find out what happens when you don't vote for the lesser of two evils.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IMO anybody who promotes competition and antimonopoly is a working class hero.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Competition" is not a working class interest. Solidarity is.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah well Monopoly isn't solidarity, it's oppression, so fighting that is good in my book.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A liberal fights a monopoly by competition, so that no single capitalist gains more profits over the other capitalists.

A socialist fights a monopoly by socializing it and making it a utility that works to meet the needs of the population, eliminating the profit motive.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

Lack of alternatives is always bad, the needs of the population are rarely homogeneous.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And the true enemy endorses monopoly, so I'm happy to call liberals my friends.

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

Stephen Harper when he was leader of the Conservative Party offered Mark Carney a position as Finance Minister.

So Conservatives sure thought he was far enough to the right to be a Conservative.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago

You don't have to be a tankie to see that Carney is a red tory.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

you don’t have to be an authcom to see that carney is to the right of trudeau; he canceled the carbon tax, the capital gains tax hike, and is in favor of building more oil pipelines

no matter who won, canada would shift to the right. all we could do is decide by how much.

(and either way, all 3 of them - trudeau, carney and poilievre - are neolibs who support the genocide in palestine)

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

He cancelled the carbon tax because the name had been beaten up by the Conservatives. He promised to replace it with something similar but more palatable to the general public. I loved the carbon tax but agree that half the population was against it because pretty much they hated the name.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Just for clarification, he cancelled the consumer carbon tax. It was pretty much just a move to screw over PP (and I’m all for that honestly)

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

And if the conservative had won they all would have suddenly become optimists "the bright side is that this will weaken the western empire and accelerated the revolution of the working class!"

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[–] 000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago

Also, Mexico

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

The propaganda train remains strong up here regardless. Half of the west is losing their mind every day pretending that Carney is some kind of secret nightmare that is going to soon be revealed, thus we've all shit the bed and will rue the day.

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

yeah yeah well our broken country will still infect them like a mold so nanny nanny boo boo.

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