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Donald Trump, at his first cabinet meeting, said he believed the US is negotiating “very successfully” with Russia and Ukraine.

The US president suggested that a ceasefire deal is close. “We’re going to make a deal with Russia and Ukraine to stop killing people,” he told reporters.

Asked if he is willing to make security guarantees as part of the deal, Trump replied:

I’m not going to make security guarantees beyond very much … We’re going to have Europe do that, because Europe is the next door neighbour.

He added that the US will be partnering with Ukraine “in terms of rare earth.” “We very much need rare earth, they have great rare earth,” Trump said.

Trump said it was “great deal for Ukraine too, because they get us over there, we are going to be working over there”.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Of course not. That would be against Putins commands.

[–] green 9 points 13 hours ago

The thing confusing me most is why Ukraine would trust any US' "guarantee", when they've been nothing but untrustworthy.

And people's lives are not toys. I get the sentiment behind wanting less people to die. But Trump and Putin do think people's lives are toys, so I can't imagine the outcome of this being beneficial in any way to Ukraine.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Ukraine is going to renuclearize

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

No, it’s not.

[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 18 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Seems like the US has no leverage if we're not offering anything.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 hours ago

Ukraine wouldn’t last long with US support.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago

The leverage is whatever they expect to happen if they are left to Russian interests

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago

"Art of the Deal"

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 26 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

So why should anyone listen to what the US says anyway?

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

As for NATO membership in particular, all NATO members need to accept new members...

But the EU has a similar clause to help with military invasions, so the US support isn't strictly needed for security.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

And there is no provision to remove a more member from NATO.

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 34 points 1 day ago

Zelenskyy would probably get more support from his people if he told trump to get fucked than by being his dancing monkey. I know he's desperately trying to do what's best for Ukraine, but sucking up to that piece of shit isn't it.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

Did anyone expect anything else from Krasnov?

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I though trump was going to pull the US out of Nato?

[–] kablammy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago

I guess by staying in they can derail it being useful to anybody else, veto new members, etc.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 213 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"They have great rare earth"

What a dumb fuck.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 85 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He talks like a very stupid root vegetable.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 3 points 17 hours ago

Made me chuckle, thanks

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I could see how rare earth might be good for a root vegetable, at least.

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I prefer root vegetables cooked medium (carrots) to well done (potatoes). Greens are excellent rare, though.

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[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Hey France, you wanna dominate europe and soon also the world again? Comon who than to do it better than with your old pal germany. This time we are the good guys. Democracy, security, peace and justice! - germany

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Well, not necessarily encrypted messaging security, https://www.intelligenceonline.com/government-intelligence/2025/01/30/france-makes-new-push-for-backdoors-into-encrypted-messaging-apps,110369896-art

That being said, yes, a stronger EU is better for the whole world. I hate that Trump is becoming the impetus for that.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 17 hours ago

Trump and Pooting. Helping the EU grow larger and breaking their chains of Dependance

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 131 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I get the impression Trump has no clue what’s going on. He’s just just regurgitating bullet points that someone—probably Putin—put in large print on a piece of paper.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

Krasnov does what he is TOLD.

[–] WatDabney@fedia.io 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's what he's always done.

He has the attention span of a toddler. He latches onto ideas, and specifically things that will satisfy his ego, his greed or his lust, with a laser focus, for exactly and only so long as they manage to hold his attention.

And at the same time, he has essentially no conception of objective truth. It's not quite that he lives in a fantasy world as that his need to satisfy his ego, greed and/or lust is so much his focus that everything else pales in comparison, including truth.

So he essentially sincerely says whatever he thinks will serve to accomplish whatever it is that he's focused on at the moment. It's not so much that he lies as that he doesn't really make a distinction between truth and lies. The only meaningful measure of a claim is whether or not it will serve his goals.

And all of that means that a smart, canny and manipulative man - Putin, for instance - can get him pointed in whatever direction he wants by feeding him the right bait and the right bullet points to go along with it.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Exactly. This became very obvious after his meeting with Russia, he just started repeating their talking points without any critique. He has zero plan or strategy, just chasing feelings and vibes to feed his giant ego.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

It's not so much that he lies as that he doesn't really make a distinction between truth and lies. The only meaningful measure of a claim is whether or not it will serve his goals.

Been saying this for years. The man literally can't tell a lie, everything that comes out of his mouth is the truth. I don't think many people have been around someone that's full-on Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD).

And yes, once you figure out that's his disorder, he's as easy to manipulate as a toddler. Also been saying since he won the election, his handlers are in charge this time and it couldn't be more obvious. Look at his Truth Social posts for one example. They're far more clear and focused, easily written by someone imitating him. Any one of us could do it.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

The US has already devalued being a member of NATO.

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Zelenskyy, it's a trap! Trump does not give a shit about Ukraine!

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 97 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that Zelenskyy probably isn't stupid enough to not be aware of that already.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Considering Zelenskyy said out loud that Trump lives in a disinformation bubble, it's a safe bet that he's aware.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

At this point he's probably just buying time. He knows the US will abandon them, but probably needs to give the EU time to sort out their finances.

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 day ago

Trump trades alliances for slogans; NATO isn’t a casino, and Ukraine isn’t a poker chip.

😾

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

He's gonna get the rare earth minerals deal, and then immediately go back on his word. This guy hasn't told the truth his entire life. Why would he suddenly start now?

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (22 children)

The Blowback season for Ukraine is going to be great 👍

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