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[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 231 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Jesus was a socialist. Maybe they should switch religions

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 164 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Also, he wasn't white. Which I know really offends their sensibilities.

Jewish too.

[–] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 91 points 2 years ago

The Nazis came up with this concept of "German Christianity" or "Positive Christianity" that essentially took Christianity and emphasized its differences from Judaism, while downplaying Jesus as the messiah and elevating the Führer as the herald of a new covenant. I know we're all joking here but this kind of thing has been done before, over, and over, and over.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 78 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Next you'll tell me he didn't speak American.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago (4 children)

He's also never even watched the Superbowl.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 years ago

And he didn't like that kid's Facebook post and now they're dead!

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[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 92 points 2 years ago (25 children)

Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous when you consider how at odds Jesus is with most of what capitalism entails. He didn't stutter when he said it's impossible for a wealthy person to get into heaven. He was unambiguously against accumulated wealth. His belief was that if you had resources to help people, you had an obligation to do so. If you kept wealth, then you were failing that obligation.

Granted, I'm an atheist, but I'm tired of the right wing Christianity in the US. Any person who actually followed Christianity, and didn't just use it as an excuse to support their hatred and biases, would undoubtedly vote against Republicans, abortion rights notwithstanding.

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[–] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago
[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They would probably love Islam if they could get past the whole "brown people worship this religion" thing, Islam really seems far more their type than Christianity.

Coming soon to the Southern portion of the US, Vanilla ISIS!

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[–] Polydextrous@lemmy.world 149 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

…Trump had transformed the political landscape in the U.S. to the point where some Christian conservatives are openly denouncing a central doctrine of their religion as being too "weak" and "liberal" for their liking.

Trump didn’t transform shit. His views are as old as conservatism. Maybe there was a lull in speaking out about them from about 1975-2001, but they didn’t go away. Trump literally just stumbled ass-first into a convenient landscape with his more plainly outspoken bigotry and hate.

To attribute all of this to the last 6-8 years is beyond stupid and misses the entire problem.

And if these people can’t see that, their blind spot to hatred is so big that they can’t see it until someone screams it in their face. Yeah, it’s great someone in the evangelical community is speaking out, but it’s too little way too late. The fascist ideology has firmly rooted its way into American life over the last 30 years. Now that that tree is bearing fruit and it’s falling on people’s heads, speaking out now is like trying to cut down that tree with pruning shears. You assholes that fostered this for so long needed to cut it off way sooner.

[–] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I appreciate your attempt to bring a longer timescale into conservative christofascism in America but 30 years is still about 300 years too short.

Remember our earliest colonies were totalitarian theocracies with extreme racial purity beliefs

[–] Hype@lemm.ee 29 points 2 years ago

Many people don't realize that the first colonies were founded by Christians that believed the churches in their home county were not being authoritarian enough. The wanted religious freedom, sure, but they wanted the freedom to be theocratic like you said.

[–] Devilsadvocate@reddthat.com 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The views and beliefs were always there, trump just galvanized and rallied those with those beliefs.

But it’s bc of him that the Republican Party is as openly fucking nuts. Some of the Florida GOP congresspeople are fucking wild.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trump just enabled people to be proud of their bigotry.

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[–] Spacegrass@artemis.camp 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Fully agree. As an ex-Christian, the crusades used to be unimaginable to me. Now I see them as an easy trend line from current events.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago
[–] shawnshitshow@sopuli.xyz 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

"Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins."

And when Jesus was asked what the greatest of the commandments was:

"The most important one is this: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these”

yep, Jesus really was a liberal hippy cuck

[–] Starbuck@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

And beating swords into plowshares. Real liberal cuck bullshit

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[–] Spendrill@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I dunno if I can love my neighbour as myself, is it alright if I just grab her by the pussy?

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago (23 children)

They'll just write a Murican Bible with guns and pickup trucks.

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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the apotheosis of Reagan's cynical exploitation of Evangelical voters. They were always going to end up rejecting the very deity they claimed to follow as the culmination of their path astray.

Like, as soon as "Christians" started voting to cut social welfare programs and programs to help children, they were on the road to apostasy (in their religious framework).

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Conservative Christians praise Jesus and follow the example of God. Liberal Christians praise God and follow the example of Jesus. One judges, the other forgives. One smites, the other saves. One says "praise me", the other literally says not to worship him but to follow his example.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 years ago

Or they just make up shit as an excuse to do whatever they please for their own personal benefit while easing their conscious.

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[–] p0q@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In my experience they have been doing this for at least 30 years.

[–] style99@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] deft@ttrpg.network 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

centuries. jesus said friend up the hoes and queers. so christians burned the women and the gays.

[–] musictechgeek@lemdit.com 39 points 2 years ago (76 children)

"When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis."

Half this story is about the idiot SBC constituency. The other half is about top SBC officials who have somehow come to believe that the teachings of Jesus were anything but subversive to begin with.

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[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 31 points 2 years ago (23 children)

I've said it before, but, (assuming he existed at all) Jesus was a brown-skinned non-English-speaking Palestinian Jew who healed the sick and fed the poor (and didn't charge money for either thing) and encouraged his followers to do the same, supported paying taxes, and showed open contempt for wealth and the wealthy.

If only he had also been openly gay he would be every single thing modern Christians hate.

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[–] who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I decided that I couldn’t be part of a hypocritical* institution like the church in 2002! I loved the teachings but i saw none of them within the parishioners themselves, so i left to find my own way.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago (20 children)

Jesus teachings, assuming he was even real, boil really down to being a decent human being.
You don't need a religious institution to live by that principle, you don't even need to be a believer of anything supernatural, you don't even have to believe he existed. Just be a decent human being, it's really not that hard.
All those people and their labels, but they always end up just being control freaks and hypocrites, all throughout history. And then they wonder why others turn their backs on them.

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[–] boringbisexual@lib.lgbt 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I read that there's a group making a new version of the Bible that takes out all the "woke" stuff.

[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think that's just the old testament.

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[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

"the monster we made is acting monstrous"

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So they only follow the old testament? Isn't there already a word for that?

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[–] benwubbleyou@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Tim Keller wrote about this in 2018 and it still rings true. Christians dont get to choose a side.

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