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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 108 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Someone who plans on leaving in 3½ years doesn't pave over the rose garden, add a $200m ballroom, or deploy the national guard at the Capitol.
We're in this until his shitty diet, substance abuse, lack of exercise, and age catch up with him.
Then, we'll get to live though the struggle to occupy the power vacuum left in his wake.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Also accepted a free plane that’s going to cost nearly a billion dollars to remake as Air Force one so he can use it for less than a year before his term is supposed to end. Not that he cares, but I totally agree that he, and his party, are expecting him to stay for longer. We’re like six months away from a big Trump sign on the White House lawn.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Isn't he taking the plane with him? I thought it was "donated" to his "Presidential Library".

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Yup, he’s bringing it with him…I agree with your use of quotes too. But I’m guessing there’s a lot of stuff that’s going to be put on that plane that he needs to do his job as president (haha) that he shouldn’t have access to as a former president. So they’re adding all that stuff for him to use it for a year and then they remove it afterwards? I think it’s another indicator that he’s planning on exceeding his term limits.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only solace I have is thinking he'll drop dead sooner than 4 years from all those issues.

[–] RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Project 2025 isn’t Trump. He’s just their first disposable puppet.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

True but do you think people will follow JD Vance like they do Trump? Idk who they could get to replace him but I guess it wouldn't matter as much since republicans are so conditioned to tow the party line no matter what

[–] RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

It already won’t matter. America won’t be seeing free elections again.

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We’re in this until his shitty diet, substance abuse, lack of exercise, and age catch up with him.

And there is absolutely nothing the people can do?

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Nothing we can talk about online without getting banned from literally any platform, including here, I can verify that firsthand.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 5 points 2 days ago

You can talk about it on Lemmy, just chose better instances than reddit-lite.world

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Still waiting for my $5000 dollars Donny promised us in February, still waiting for no tax on tips, still waiting for the war in Ukraine to end, still waiting to be a crypto billionaire, still waiting to own the libs, still waiting *couch *couch oh boy I sure hope my insurance will cover this cold I got…

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Couch couch? I hope Vance isn't nearby.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Oops! Cough cough…

JD Vance has entered the chat.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If America has another legitimate election before it has another civil war, I will be shocked.

Because evidence is oozing out of the woodwork that the last election was stolen.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

A) Democrats have been winning local elections since Trump got in. Many people online have been whining “Why aren’t republican voters changing their mind” when the reality is many have been doing so ever since Elon’s Nazi salute - they’re just not loud about it.

B) I still haven’t seen direct evidence of election tampering. There have been claims by professionals that it ‘could’ have happened, which snaps up clicks. There’s a price to claiming fraud when there wasn’t any, since whatever approach you want to use to defeat fascism will require mass action - but if you haven’t convinced the populace of your side, mass action is doomed anyway.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (9 children)

This country will be unrecognizable in 3.5 years.

This is what happens when you give conservatives power. This is why you don't cry over a single issue or decide you just don't want to get involved with politics and stay home. You adult up and make the decision that's best for yourself and your fellow citizens.

Americans failed hard at doing that last November.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Our Oligarchs decided they were willing to support fascist. So we got a fascist. We don't live in a democracy. We live in a dictatorship of the ruling class and the wealthy.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can blame the wealthy all you want, and they are generally a detriment to our society, but our politics are the way they are because of our populace. Our politics are a reflection of our populace.

If Americans overwhelmingly voted against this, then there's nothing the oligarchs could have done about it.

We, as a people, failed.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok. But it's here. We have fascism. Do you think we just vote that out?

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Showing up to vote is important to minimizing harm and building out our movements. We know more about what 3rd party voters want than non voters (majority block for several cycles)

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Anyone who thinks this ends in 2028 is delusional.

Fascists usually only leave office when they die

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Anyone that thinks this ends with Trump is delusional. If we still have the illusion of democracy in 2028 the polls will be "guarded" by ICE to "ensure a democratic process".

It won't matter if it's Trump or an even more fascist candidate. The oligarchs have decided that they are supporting fascist. This is our new normal.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 7 points 2 days ago

Crazy how many people think they can still vote their way out of it. And don't get me wrong, they will also not shoot their way out. You can emigrate or just try to survive.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, there have been instances where they were forcefully removed and imprisoned, but those are outliers.

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Gonna need armour-piercing ballots

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We could end this nightmare in as little as a year. Vote in the midterms! Your life depends on it!

If enough of us show up, it will be much more difficult to rig the election this time. This is your last chance to save the country. Make it count.

[–] RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t mean to be negative but you need to prepare for all of this to go sideways.

This situation will likely not lead to any type of meaningful midterm. Trump is not going to be leaving by his own volition. This is far worse than what most people can wrap their minds around right now. The DC move will be replicated in other cities soon, and the real bullshit will begin. When we did not prosecute Trump for his coup attempt, it was always going to lead here.

Midterms won’t be how you win America back, I fear.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

“The crime and chaos in our streets makes it impossible to have midterm elections. We will delay them until this national crime wave ends”

No, 2024 was the last chance to stop Trump. There is no electoral solution to a fascist dictatorship. The only thing you can do in the midterms is get people who won't meekly give in to every abuse of power, or who will rebuild after Trump dies instead of giving all control to oligarchs. We cannot end this nightmare unless Trump is dead, as he will never leave his new throne alive.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's not like things were good in the USA, before January.

More and more often I catch myself wishing for accelaration: let it collapse rather sooner than later. It's an emotional response, because watching this country go to the dogs in slo mo - possibly even with another Dem president in between that fails horribly trying to fix it - would be so torturous.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

https://aeon.co/essays/the-great-myth-of-empire-collapse

Societal downfalls loom large in history and popular culture but, for the 99 per cent, collapse often had its upsides

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Exactly. An empire falling is only really bad for those in power. For those of us that aren't, collapse is a chance for us to assert our own authority.

Thing is, we need to preconfigure the society we want to see or else that power vacuum be filled by just a different set of tyrants who seek control over us.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No need to worry about that one; MAGA is here to stay. Welcome to the United States of National Socialism.

[–] HocEnimVeni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

No see MAGA is anti socialism, it's why they're not Nazis /s

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I'm honestly shocked no one in the SS (ironic name ain't it?) has done him in yet. There's gotta be at least a couple that have thought about it right?

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Six months?! Try 30 years...

[–] don@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

A time limit? I admire your optimism.

[–] FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

I've been angry pretty much my whole life.

[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I've been mad for far longer than that, and will continue to be mad until we have a true democracy, which will only be attained through the incredible violence of revolution.

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