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[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago

Took fucking long enough

[–] Snoopy@jlai.lu 19 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

In France, they repressed palestinian strike, canceled meeting and media defended Israel, he told us he won't arrest Netanyahu, despiste the CPI decision. There is so many things wrong.

Even if he does it, i don't trust him, he could act long before.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

As tens of thousands of Gazans starve to death this week...

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (5 children)

Unironically, admitting Israel, Palestine and Lebanon into the European Union might actually be the solution to this whole fucking clusterfuck.

Edit: major major reforms should take place of course, and Israel should dismantle apartheid and pay reparations, while Lebanon should dismantle the sectarian dysfunction of their government, but as a long term horizon this region needs the wildly successful EU model of peaceful pacification more than any other region in the world.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

The EU struggles enough with keeping Hungary and Poland in line. Now imagine taking on countries that have been at war (or at least a cold war) for three quarters of a century.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago

Unironically, admitting Israel, Palestine and Lebanon into the European Union might actually be the solution to this whole fucking clusterfuck.

Only if the EU disarms Israel and restores the '47 border in the process, then prosecute the IDF leadership for war crimes.

Otherwise, you might as well suggest we admit Ukraine and Russia to the EU to settle that fight as well.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

There is only one solution to a Fascist state like Israel and that is dismantling its entire government.

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 9 points 18 hours ago

Membership requires that candidate country has achieved stability of institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights, respect for and protection of minorities, […].

Yeah, that's not going to happen.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I doubt that would ever happen anyway, but Britain and Ireland were both in the EU for a long time before they actually struck a peace deal in the Good Friday Agreement.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

I know, the EU was also supposed to be the solution to the Cyprus occupation, and that didn't work either.

I'm not saying that the EU itself is the solution, but that the horizon of the EU, or at least something similar (a MEU?) could play that stabilizing role.

[–] Numenor@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Ireland's in the EU since 1973

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 16 hours ago

But the violence carried on until 1998. Just them both joining the EU wasn't enough. It wasn't genocide levels, but it took a lot of work from both sides to get the bombs to stop.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 118 points 1 day ago (6 children)

when?? after every Palestinian has starved to death? just so they can pretend to have a moral standing?

[–] iglou@programming.dev 95 points 1 day ago (14 children)

At the next UN assembly. It says right there in the article.

Basically France now recognises the State of Palestine, and will make it official at the UN assembly.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago

Send troops to stop the fucking genocide!

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 92 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Good. Now let’s recognize it everywhere else and stop recognizing israel.

[–] korsystems@lemmy.ml 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

This. Normally, it's the Messiah who is supposed to announce the creation of Israel, and I still haven't seen that. And there's nothing in the texts to indicate that Israel should be in Palestine; it could just as easily be on the surface of the sun.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 73 points 1 day ago (26 children)

Not recognizing states that obviously exist is extremely silly.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 22 hours ago

Not recognizing would mean to not have any treaties with them, no general Visa rules, to limit trade, obviously no weapons shipments, denying port for any ships delivering arms to a non state actor...

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Yeah. exactly why Palestine should be recognized. israel is, however, a european invention and terrorist colony.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (12 children)

The first part applies to... Most of the world outside of Europe?

The second part applies, to lesser degrees, to a large part of the world. Such as the USA.

What even is this argument. Israel's not a state? Well fucking great, so following that logic which state should we hold responsible for Israel's crimes then?

Europe's colonial past is a whole-ass subject but amongst all the potential ways to try to make up for it, "stop formally recognizing former colonies because we fucked it up too badly" is one of the worst takes I've heard.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
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HOLY SHIT FINALLY

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But does that mean they'll recognize the genocide?

It's like saying they'll recognize the house but won't acknowledge that it's on fire.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a step at least. If Palestine is recognized as a state, then it's no longer an "internal affair" that Israel is engaged with, but instead against another sovereign state that has the right to defend itself and freely negotiate with other nations for aid and support.

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[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Oh so the French are anti semites now?

/S

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

Don't get fooled . There is no mention of Palestine right to security and self defense. He ask for Palestinians to be completely demilitarized before having real assurance that Israel will end occupation completely , there is no mention of how the two state solution would be accomplished and what will happen if Israel refuses

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