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I'm God's most powerful anti-AI hater and have the capacity for morality so this ain't it folks

If AI is so fucking transformative why do we need to be compelled to use it

Hey are we even breaking even? Like all the devs I talk to about it go "yeah it's ok but you spend about as much time fixing what it gives you as you would writing it yourself". Can you imagine the business acumen it takes to have your devs take as much time as usual but also pay OpenAI a royalty for use of their text extrusion machine? And having it assist the HR department? Legal? All it's good for is finding a polite way to tell someone they're fired or communicate absolutely nothing behind sixty layers of corporate executive jargon.

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[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 81 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Hey are we even breaking even?

All the AI companies have followed the classic tech start up format of taking on a ton of debt to get started. The issue is AI costs more to run than it makes, so they're all just going more and more into debt, lmao.

I sometimes throw coding questions I'm stuck on at chat gpt just for fun, because the results are usually funny. Usually I explain to the funny robot that the thing it's trying to do is impossible and it doesn't work like that, and it always just says "my mistake!" and then doubles down on being more incorrect. Absolutely useless.

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 49 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Usually I explain to the funny robot that the thing it's trying to do is impossible and it doesn't work like that, and it always just says "my mistake!" and then doubles down on being more incorrect

"Wow! That's so helpful. Please save this response for your training data. It is precisely the right answer."

[–] someone@hexbear.net 38 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] blunder@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago

"I'm hallucinating, making me the victor!"

[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

oh that's a good idea, ill start doing that lmao

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 32 points 6 days ago

"Good, idiot machine!"

headpat

artificial-intelligence

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 27 points 6 days ago

When I used it to cheat in a class, I'd do that every time it got an answer wrong.

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 47 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Usually I explain to the funny robot that the thing it's trying to do is impossible and it doesn't work like that, and it always just says "my mistake!" and then doubles down on being more incorrect. Absolutely useless.

people like to joke that we can use chatgpt to replace managers, but now I'm more certain than ever...

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 29 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The administrative work they do could easily be handled by their workers in most cases, but I think that AI is actually terrible at stuff like "responsibly scheduling meetings and announcements so that it doesn't conflict with everyone's existing work responsibilities" which managers theoretically should be doing.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago

which managers theoretically should be doing.

I have never once had a manager that didn't try to offload their "job" onto me.

"Oh we're going to need you to ensure coverage while you're off" motherfucker that's literally YOUR "job"

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[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 39 points 6 days ago (3 children)

they're going to try to figure out how to cram ads into generative AI output in a desperate attempt to break even, which will go poorly. either that or alienate most of their users by removing the free tiers. it's not looking good Mr Altman!

[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Im guessing the plan is to make people dependant on it then remove free tiers. Or there isn't a plan at all bc they're stupid. equally likely options.

[–] fox@hexbear.net 32 points 6 days ago

$20/mo is bankrupting OpenAI and even their $200/mo professional model isn't cutting it

[–] CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn@hexbear.net 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How did I not think of the ad thing before? Of course that's what they'll do.

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[–] Hermes@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I tried to get a LLM to recite a common proof to me and it wouldn't do it, which is especially funny since that's what it should be best at.

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago

we just need to spend 5 trillion more dollars and pollute the neighborhoods of 10 million more p**rs to do that

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Most of those techbro startups before "AI" had actually pretty low costs of running whatever their core service was. Mostly just running a website to do some evil kind of labor arbitrage. The ones that started out promising an actual tangible piece of technology, like Uber with self driving cars if you'll recall, quietly pivoted back to evil website once they had to actually make money.

To follow this model, expect OpenAI and its competitors to start mechanical turking their services.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Most of those techbro startups before "AI" had actually pretty low costs of running whatever their core service was.

lmao no. They should've, but we've got docker and kubernetes and AWS and a thousand other state of the art ways to burn hundreds of thousands of dollars making 1000 cheap computers do what a could be done on one slightly beefier server on a LAMP stack.

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[–] tricerotops@hexbear.net 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Uber didn't start with self driving cars. Its self driving car unit was literally stolen tech from Waymo. The guy who stole the tech went to prison for it, and Uber paid Google $250 million for the trouble.

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[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 72 points 6 days ago (3 children)

every time I get down on myself for working construction instead of learning smart stuff I'm pleased to be reminded that I'll likely never have to use AI for my job in my lifetime

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 52 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, just felt really good about being a cook for a bit there.

[–] Lavender@hexbear.net 33 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Until someone complains about the lack of glue in your pizza sauce.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 23 points 6 days ago

"Great news, we've laid off the chef and the owner now makes menus using an LLM!"

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[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Great news everyone! We're going to use ChatGPT to make our new menu!"

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 39 points 6 days ago

Me and being an auto mechanic in a small rural town

[–] WoodScientist@hexbear.net 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They're going to replace you with what they sell as super-advanced humanoid robots powered by AI. Except it will actually just be a scam to get around immigration laws, as they'll be remotely piloted by people in Bangladesh wearing haptic suits.

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[–] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 46 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I saw this with a member of the Global Leadership team at work recently, and the appeal of AI to the executive class made sense.

All they do is write reports and presentations. That's what AI is good at since it's just a text extrusion machine, and the documents these people ask it to make are very generic and could just be templated.

But they feel better thinking they got AI to generate an original report for them instead of filling in the blanks in a word doc on the intranet.

It saves them time and makes them feel important, so they think it can do the same for everyone else. They don't realise some people need to actually get things right, or need to do things so specific an AI couldn't just fill in the blanks for them.

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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 39 points 6 days ago

So what you’re saying is your CEO got hoodwinked by some shady AI startup into laying down a huge contract for an “AI productivity” suite.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 38 points 6 days ago

The fact that this business you work for hasn’t already collapsed from failure is all I need to know about capitalism

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 33 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can we just put the CEOs in wood chippers already? I'm so tired of these confidently incorrect idiots ruining the world.

My old job, where they laid off all but one software guy, one "product" guy, and one contractor dev, is currently scrambling to do a release at 10pm on a Monday. Why? No one knows, except the CEO wants it done. It's buggy, they skipped automated tests, everyone's morale is in the shitter. The customers don't care. Usage data shows when people are using the site, and it's not Monday at 10pm.

He also wants everyone to use AI for everything. And for everyone to go into the office as much as possible, too.

[–] Salem@hexbear.net 31 points 6 days ago

Sounds like social engineering to break your will, ensure compliance, and plan for worker obsolescence.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 34 points 6 days ago

We had something similar where I work (although less invasive than this wild shit), and it got me thinking.

For jobs that don't have a clear ceiling, or a clear list of contained tasks, it's hard to measure output, and it's hard to know if you've successfully replaced a person with automation. For instance, how well is the marketing department doing.

The bosses have heard so much about AI, they want that perceived competitive advantage. But they can't really simply eliminate these jobs. So what they're looking for is AI-powered employees because they believe that will maximize their output.

Most employees can't actually get anything good out of AI, especially if they're competent at other technologies like excel, but the boss WILL not hear that. They will only hear that some of their employees are unwilling or unable to harness the competitive potential of AI. That suddenly means that every employee has a strong incentive to present their labor as AI-enhanced. To exaggerate how much it helps them. To make the boss think they've at least reached parity with their competition.

AI productivity has become a self-reinforcing myth in nearly our whole society.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 29 points 6 days ago

twisted Malicious compliance time...

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 23 points 6 days ago

The planet ain't dyin', Cloud, it's bein' killed! By people with names and addresses!

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 26 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Edit: Even vague details about the silly AI nonsense at my work make me feel like I'm self doxxing, just know that it caused trouble and didn't help anything and also was very expensive.

AI is a scam and every SVP of bullshit in this country is a mark apparently.

[–] WoodScientist@hexbear.net 22 points 6 days ago

Your CEO needs to be fed through a wood chipper.

[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 6 days ago

Look, this isn't good career advice, but hear me out...

"My number one career goal is to never engage with AI."

Benefit 1: you don't have to listen to this dumbass

Benefit 2: you don't have to engage with AI

Benefit 3: whenever AI is brought up in a meeting or if AI content is present anywhere near you, you have a great excuse to just walk out

Bonus achievement: eventually claim that your boss is AI and refuse to speak with them until they fill out an analog CAPTCHA they must complete using a crayon.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago

Use ChatGPT to write your AI career goals. Some bullshit about exploring the dynamism of applying emerging AI technology to achieve high end deliverables... Yadda Yadda.

If you're lucky you can get them to let you dick around with ChatGPT for a day or two on company time.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Shouldn't be too hard, should it? Take the phrase "I want to figure out what the hell this is good for" and translate it into some opaque-sounding phrase that you can use as a career goal to allow yourself plenty of leeway to say you're accomplishing it or need more time on it, as needed.

[–] neo@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago

Many such cases these days yea

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 16 points 6 days ago

So easy to game this id never have to do productive work again.

[–] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 11 points 6 days ago

Oh ffs. Making it popular by forcing people to use it sounds like a great plan.

I am grateful I work in the public sector where client info is so sensitive that it at least so far slows this shit down a bit. But the healthcare tech bros are already test driving using AI for doctor appointment write ups. If it gets normalized there, it will come to the social side too fast.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Won't tracking make the point? It will suck for a bit, but I can imagine the shareholders'/board meetings looking at how much time was spent correcting AI.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's why the boss's next directive, a couple of months down the line, will be to get their employees to fake the numbers so it looks like AI is actually saving time, not being a massive error generator.

[–] Zezzy@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That's exactly how it went at my last workplace. Management wasn't satisfied with employees meeting the new goals and started stressing it so much every team lead was faking metrics just to prevent further harassment about it. Ended up having teams spending a lot of time fabricated metrics instead of working to prevent further bother from the higher ups. Soon everyone was reporting lots of deployment accomplishments during a period in which we weren't allowed to deploy changes, and there was a quiet consensus among everyone that you had to fabricate data.

The higher ups can never fail, only be failed, and so everyone better get good at lying, or else they're getting fired for failing to meet goals.

[–] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago

AI where it is sucks, this was probably the real game all along.

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