Another Trumper full of regret.
A lot of people will just support the populist in the race regardless of their ideology or whether their proposed policies make any sense.
this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2025
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Odds are she 8s the kind of person who has spent most of her life voting for Democrats to save her from Republicans and Republicans to save her from Democrats when they're two sides of the same coin.
The sooner people learn to break out of that, the better things will be.
I hate how it can take literally having your choices fuck you over to get some people to change.
I despise how more people have their choices fuck them over and then double, triple, and quad down on them.
I think what's really sad about Trumpism and similar surges of right wing support in other countries is that I get where it's coming from — many of these people were already thoroughly fucked over by things they had no choice over. And then they're so desperate for change that they vote for things that fuck them over even harder. We need more politicians like Mamdani
Edit: typo
Oh look, it's yet another one of those socialist <-> Trump "anything but the status quo" crossover voters that neoliberal Democrats deny exist. Tell me again about how Bernie couldn't have won and it was essential to laser-focus on the "moderates."
Mamdani showed us what works. If the Democrats don't listen it's their fault if they lose
But we’ll all pay the price, just like we are now.
Centrists need to hold their noses
Just replace your "if"s with "when"s and you've got a solid prediction of the future
The fascist facilitation party will not be taking suggestions. Neoliberal "centrism" is a core component of the fascist coup.
In her defense, she’s been Wong most of her life.
white people resist making puns off Chinese last names challenge (impossible)
So that’s bad but calling someone a Karen is ok?
Shirley it's impossible
Don’t call me Shirley!
Internet guy not assuming all people on the internet are white challenge (impossible (you will lose))
To be fair there are people out there named Dung. How the hell are we supposed to just overlook that!?
I went to school with a kid whose last name was Homo. This was the 90s in a culturally cloistered part of the US - at least back then - so the kid never heard the end of it. He changed his surname after graduation.
Meanwhile, Vietnamese people are like "I Nguyen".
"yes, i voted to suffer, but you must understand, it made people i hate suffer too"
Shirley Wong isn’t much of a critical thinker, it seems.
She seems pretty critical of immigrants, does that count?
For her, it's just who ever most recently said a thing she liked vs who who ever is in charge and can be blamed for all the things she doesn't like. She's probably never met a government official she couldn't blame for a cloud blocking her sunlight, and never met a politician that lies if the things they're saying sound nice.
PS. That's not aimed at Mamdani, just Shirley Wong and those who behave like her.
It's almost like conservatives have spent decades chipping away at education specifically so that people wouldn't have critical thinking skills and could be treated like cattle.
She's 70 so it would have to have happened 50+ years ago to have an effect here
More likely she grew up in an environment where this type of thinking was normalized, and to think otherwise was met with social consequences. Outside of a few breakout individuals, most have to be taught early not to take what they're told for granted.
Wong. An immigrant, or at least the descendant of. They’re so quick to pull up the ladder.
Aren't most US Americans immigrants if you just go back in time long enough?
Hell, even Native Americans must've immigrated somewhen.
It's all about 'I got mine, fuck you!' attitude.
Colonization and immigration are meaningfully different though
Yea. All of us except the Natives, and even then if you want to be even more pedantic they migrated here too.
Of course! Do you know who was also an immigrant? Mary Anne MacLeod who was married to, and had children with, Fred Trump who was himself a first-generation American.
It's not surprising...
When "moderates" run one party, the other party goes further in the other direction to compensate.
So when neoliberals took the Dem party to the right. And people stopped getting helped by them, they turned to the only other option.
Biden and Kamala doubling down and insisting that everything was great made that even worse.
Because for the vast amount of Americans, shit is not ok.
It was harder to believe Biden/Kamala lying that everything was fine than it was to believe Trump's lies about whose fault it was. To a lot of people what mattered is trump admitted shit needed to be fixed, and Biden/Kamala couldn't (or wouldn't) do that
Democrats spent four years fixing shit and the American public fell for lies from the guy who wrecked most of it.
There’s no way to fix that kind of stupidity.
Democrats spent four years fixing shit
That's not how the vast majority of Americans viewed 2020-2024...
and the American public fell for lies from the guy who wrecked most of it.
I don't have a high opinion of the majority of Americans right now.
Well, it doesn't matter what your opinion of them is...
This is (pretty much) a democracy so what the majority (of states) wants is what matters.
And they don't believe the turtles pace of 80 year old neoliberals is fast enough.
We can stomp our feet and call them names, or we can push for progressives willing to fix shit fast enough that it has a noticeable result to even the average American....
Don't forget, that's always been an option.
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Watching Mamdani interview Trump voters really woke me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7FcVCYqQNs
People can't see past the tip on their nose and vote on what's in their wallet today. I've had people tell me they voted for President by comparing their tax returns.
The BBB is so much worse than we're talking about. A lot of American's will get a few hundred, maybe $2,000, more back and say, "That Trump fella's the man for me!"
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Yes and their unawareness of employment numbers going up, prices stabilizing, companies being prosecuted for price fixing and profiteering, consumer rights being strengthened, unions being strengthened, etc, is in large part the fault of the media (and yes a fair bit fault of the party who couldn't tell anybody what they were doing).
Things were getting better, and people's view of the economy ended up being extremely wildly distorted from the real numbers by the end, people were fearful over nothing because media boosted the fear campaign from Republicans.
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