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The metric of per kg of product, while entirely fair, can be a bit misleading when it comes to making high impact decisions in your life. The switching to tea example is a good one to criticize because on this chart coffee is quite high up there, but I consume only 15g of coffee a day, compared to probably close to a kg of meat, egg, and dairy. Eliminating coffee would not be a high climate impact decision.
or eat the wealthy is a better start
how does hunted vs farmed meat compare?
How is dark chocolate so high? :o
Slash and burn Cocoa farming
People will look at an image like this, read that 80% of deforestation in the Amazon happens for cattle, and go βIβm powerless, Exxon is badβ and continue to not only eat meat 5x a day but also actively try to convince other people that reducing their meat consumption is silly and they might as well keep eating it as much as they want because grocery stores will stock it anyway and Elon Musk rides a jet.
The prevalence of people telling everyone not to have kids in the context of our current culture is weird.
Alt-right: "Hey we're trying to have as many kids as possible so there's more of us, and less of you. Do us a favor and don't have kids."
Evidently a lot of people on the left: "Sounds good dude."
May I propose a reasonable alternative? If you don't want to have kids, cool, don't have kids. If you want to have kids, have the financial and social security to do so responsibly, and a partner who wants the same thing, then have kids (but also go vegan, ride a bike, and raise them to do the same).
Aka, you do you.
I'm certainly not going to bring kids into this shitty world when I have no confidence whatsoever that they will have a good life. Things are going downhill FAST and there's absolutely no reason to believe that situation is going to change. It's going to be bad enough with just me having to live with this shit for another 20-30 years (assuming nothing kills me before that).
Those are all fair points and something I think about as well. You do you.
We need significant subsidies invested into vat grown meat. But now Big Ag is getting it banned in every state it can. Texas and Florida have already banned it.
While cultured meat really could be a game changer (as long as it's being done in a way that doesn't exploit and harm animals in and of itself), let's not forget that plants in and of themselves are amazing, right now.
Not disagreeing that meat is bad for the environment, but I think not having kids is probably way above cutting out meat.
Who looks at this world and wants to bring life into it? I fundamentally cannot wrap my head arround that.
Yeah. Just had this convo with my partner two days ago.
Reasons why I don't want kids.
Number one, they can't consent to being born, If given the choice, I would not consent to being born right now, why should I force that on someone else.
Number two, we can't afford kids right now, even with both of us working full time jobs. (Not bragging, but both my partner and I make over the median household income for our area. I legit have no idea how other people do it, because we are paycheck to paycheck right now.)
Number three, even though abortion is legally protected in the constitution of my state, our legislators at the state and the federal levels are seeking to undo those protections against the will of the people. There is no guarantee that if we had a complicated pregnancy, that they would survive or even be able to find healthcare.
Number four, we are knowingly perpetuating an ongoing climate disaster. I can't in good faith bring someone into this world knowing that they will be displaced or die because the part of the planent they live on may become inhospitable due to our inaction.
Number five, we're seeing the rise of far right antagonist fascist movement worldwide. At this point a global war for basic human rights is inevitable, if not already started.
Number six, there are always hundreds of thousands of children stuck in the foster/adoption system who are destined to struggle for the rest of their lives because of a lack of family support. I would adopt long before I would consider bringing another person into this world.
Thanks for attending my doom rant.
This is a perfect explanation.
This is point for point the conversation I had with my partner as well. I wish it wasn't like this, but here we are.
I want to, but its a desire, its not rational.
Accounting for emissions per kilogram isn't that fair, can we account for emissions per 1000 kilocalorie? Or emissions per protein?
Veganism is good, necessary even, but more than voting we need to actually overthrow capitalism and replace it with socialism. Profit will destroy the planet unless we take control of the reigns from capital.
Can we please have a source for the YSK statement you made in the title and the graph?
I have seen data on not having kids being the biggest choice a person can make to prevent future emissions. You also didn't mention flying less often, or not flying when a reasonable alternative exists. What is the relative impact of all of these things compared to dietary changes? Numbers on that would be helpful.
Being alive is bad for the environment.
You can't survive around here (eastern Kentucky) without owning your own car. The nearest Walmart to me is a half hour drive at 60mph and we don't have taxis in any of the towns around me. That's 7 hours of walking, each way. No buses or trains either. The closest store of any kind to me is a Dollar General and is about 2 hours each way if I walk.
A lot of the anti-car sentiment comes from urban, or European communities where population is a lot more dense.
Rural America will be the absolute lowest priority, because there are fewer people spread farther out. Anyone who wants to make someone feel bad about that is just a dick.