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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 22 points 2 hours ago

Why didn't you aggressively pursue the criminal terrorist known as Taco when you could do something about it?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 27 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

no you didn't, dumbass. we knew this was coming and you did nothing to prevent it.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yep he should have had trump and all these ilk in jail, but nope.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world -4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

So you wanted the president to arrest people based on political affiliation?

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

No but I would like people to be arrested for causing insurrections. Arresting people on political affiliation would be tyranny. We should only arrest people based on the crimes that they commit

[–] match@pawb.social 4 points 2 hours ago

should've retired a year in

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 119 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Shut the fuck up, Biden. When the Supreme Court made a president a king, you had the chance to remove ALL of these traitors as an official presidential action and you still chose the high road.

So just enjoy your dementia in peace.

[–] schema@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Darth Brendon entering the SC building with a shotgun as an official act to showcase how stupid that SC decision was would have been the best timeline.

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 103 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

His presidency will be remembered not for what he did, which was mostly good, but for what he did not do. His legacy will be viewed similarly to Hoover's. Both were principled men who, when faced with a serious problem, could not find it in themselves to deal with it.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

....maybe more like Neville Chamberlain's legacy.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 27 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

Dear god, Hoover was a monster and a criminal. He is known in particular for how unprincipled he was. From casually violating human rights at a national scale to targeting civil rights leaders, to blackmail and terrorism, he established the playbook that modern totalitarians like Trump continue to abuse today.

Using Hoover and Biden in the same breath, let alone calling a monster like Hoover “principled” is beyond the pale.

Edit: Ignore this rant. I was thinking J Edgar Hoover, notorious leader of the BOI/FBI, not former president Herbert Hoover who was absolutely a forgettable milquetoast president like Biden. Though Biden didn’t murder and tear-gas our own unemployed veterans, so he does have that going for him.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I was so confused until I got to the edit.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

It still kinda made sense if you knew about the Palmer raids and the first red scare, however, I doubt anybody has ever been taught about those things in the US lol

[–] Forester@pawb.social 28 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 12 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Herbert Hoover sucked ass too, they weren't called Hoovervilles because he did such an amazing job of stewardship and not being a racist.

What's funny is how much accidental overlap there actually is between them. Principled my ass lmao.

[–] Forester@pawb.social 2 points 3 hours ago

That's kind of the point of this thread I'm glad we're having a consensus.

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

Perhaps principled wasn't the best term I could have used. It was meant in terms of their philosophy of the role of government. There's no question that Herbert Hoover prioritized that over helping people.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago

Oh, dear god. You’re right. Ha. That’s actually a very apt comparison.

I complain about J Edgar too much and forgot Herbert Hoover even existed, as I am sure history will forget about Biden.

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

I guess I should have been specific. J Edgar was certainly a monster, he ran the FBI like his own private army and multiple presidents just let him do it.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 135 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

You failed to do the one thing that mattered, Biden, which was replace Garland and make sure that someone actually put Trump's ass behind bars as well as his enablers like Musk, Bannon, Miller, and so on. (Seriously, how was the stuff in Project 2025 not enough to hit people with fucking conspiracy, racketeering and sedition charges?) Instead you slow walked this shit and it's literally entirely your own fucking fault that we're in this mess. Especially your unwillingness to stick with your original promise of being a one-term President and allowing the Democrats to have an actual primary, instead once again snatching actual choice out of the hands of the people and anointing a new candidate instead. How many fucking times has that failed now, dipshit?

I got zero sympathy for this blithering bitching idiot. Go cry about your legacy more, chucklefuck. We're facing out of control fascism because you were a pussy and didn't want to "lOoK PoLiTiCaL."

[–] blah3166@piefed.social 1 points 17 minutes ago

how was the stuff in Project 2025 not enough to hit people with fucking conspiracy, racketeering and sedition charges

Genuine question— Conspiracy generally involves an agreement between two or more people to commit an unlawful act. The "unlawful act" being key, what unlawful act is there to charge someone with conspiracy regarding the policy changes in Project 2025?

On the other hand, once the SCOTUS basically made the President king so long as they did it in the interest of the country, Biden should have just put all of them in jail, but that's beside the point.

[–] Xulai@mander.xyz 59 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly, this.

But wait, there’s more…

Enabling a genocide- something all the candidates were going to do anyway- is deeply unpopular.

Supporting Israel at the expense of US citizens isn’t okay under any circumstances or leader. It is time to end this farce; the only folks who don’t listen are the ones being paid not to.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It was especially stupid because he was dealing with Netanyahu, who clearly was making decisions to make Biden look bad and enable Trump. As if Trump and Netanyahu aren't exactly the fuck alike, both total criminals looking for power to avoid paying for their criminal activities.

So, on top of enabling a fucking genocide, it was also crassly politically fucking stupid to try to be wheeling and dealing with a guy who once again clearly supported Trump and would fuck Biden over to get Trump a win. Biden is a fucking a buffoon.

[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 21 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

He was the wrong man for the job

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

cc @KierStarmer

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 5 hours ago

He was the less wrong man for the job

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 19 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The American people want a failed reality host who puts on a Plain Folks act while despising the people who worship him. They want an end to education, Social Security, Medicare, and our national public spaces. They want women, LGBTQ, and nonwhites to be second-class citizens. They want violence and torture, because it's Strong.

This is the new America. You're not part of it, Joe.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is that they don't want an end to those services in reality.

They want an end to the imaginary concept of those services as sold to them by the GOP and corporate media.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

And because the voters refuse to see anything other than that fictional version, functionally it's the truth.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Biden’s been out of office six months and still r2o can’t move on.

I wish he was still president or that the American people voted in Harris so that they and the world would be in a better place.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Never forget Biden was the reason we are in this mess. He should be shamed for the rest of his life and even after that.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

The American voters are the problem for voting in Trump, not a man who tried to make a troubled country better over his lifetime.

[–] redhat421@lemmy.world 0 points 31 minutes ago

It's a politicians job to earn votes. Kamala clearly failed at this. :-(

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

He didn't do the one most important thing he needed to do: hold a felon fascist insurrectionist accountable for his actions.

That's what his legacy will be.

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 28 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (8 children)

Maybe so, but Biden had two opportunities.

  1. Get rid of Merrick Garland.

  2. Use the SCOTUS’s ruling of presidential immunity against Trump and them.

He failed when it really mattered. Twice. No sympathy.

It’s like saying, we played a great game against the 49ers but 1 minute left in the 4th quarter, we chose to do a field goal to tie the score instead of going for a Hail Mary and the kick missed.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

He also failed to step down when faced with compelling evidence that he would lose to Trump. If we had an honest primary, I don't think we'd be in this mess. Instead, he held on to power up until the last minute and the Democratic constituency yet again got a candidate they didn't want.

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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Voter shaming. Voter blaming. Not the party who didn't even hold a primary after Biden dropped out far too late. Not the party who said "nothing will fundamentally change" and ran on "but Trump"

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