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[–] daveB@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Conservation work can be confusing I guess

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 15 points 12 hours ago

Could someone please help me save some power and just post the image with the 5tits so I don't need to have it regenerated de novo?

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 11 points 21 hours ago

Let's not forget billionaires in this consideration.

[–] johnyreeferseed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meanwhile I'm down town I'm my city cleaning windows in office buildings that are 75% empty but the heat or ac is blasting on completely empty floors and most of the lights are on.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

The HVAC does serve a purpose, it reduces the moisture in the building, which would otherwise ruin the building

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Laughs in total recall

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 80 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Worse is Google that insists on shoving a terrible AI-based result in your face every time you do a search, with no way to turn it off.

I'm not telling these systems to generate images of cow-like girls, but I'm getting AI shoved in my face all the time whether I want it or not. (I don't).

[–] Getting6409@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago

Piling on to the google alternatives heap: https://searx.space/

You can pick a public instance of searxng and choose which engines it queries by going to the setting cog, then Engines. A few of these public instances I've checked out have only google enabled, though, so you really do need to check the settings.

If you want to add a searxng instance as your default engine and your browser doesn't automatically do it, the URL for that is: https://<searxng_url>/search?q=%s

I have to add this manually for things like ironfox/firefox mobile.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Firefox has a plugin that blocks the AI results. It works pretty well most of the time, but it occasionally has hiccups when Google updates stuff or something.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I'll have to look for this, thanks!

[–] stefenauris@pawb.social 28 points 1 day ago

Then I guess it's time to stop using Google!

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Someone posted here a while ago - if you use the URL https://www.google.com/search?q=%25s&udm=14 it doesn't include the AI search. I've updated my Google search links to use that instead of the base Google URL.

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can also use alternatives like startpage and ecosia which use google results, I believe.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Both of which are probably training their own AI as middle men or stealing your search terms to tell Walmart what type of peanut butter you're most likely to buy if they could lock it up on a plastic covered shelve.

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Probably, but neither automatically opt into AI replies. Ecosia has an AI chat, but it doesn't run until you go to it. Startpage has no AI option that I can see.

Ecosia has the upside of planting trees depending on user search rate. Not sure how true that is, though. I prefer startpage either way. Startpage claims to be privacy first, and I've never received tailored results or ads.

That doesn't mean they don't sell info. We can't know that for sure, but it sure as hell beats using Google and it's automatic AI searching.

[–] jjmoldy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I am trying to understand what Google's motivation for this even is. Surely it is not profitable to be replacing their existing, highly lucrative product with an inferior alternative that eats up way more power?

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 7 points 21 hours ago

They don't want to direct you to the thing you're searching for anymore because that means you're off their site quickly. Instead they want to provide themselves whatever it is you were searching for, so you will stay on their site and generate ad money. They don't care if their results are bad, because that just means you'll stick around longer, looking for an answer.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Their motivation is always ads. The ai response is longer and takes time to read so more time looking at their ads. If the answer is sufficient, you might not even click away to the search result.

AI is a potential huge bonanza to search sites, letting them suck up the ad revenue that used to goto the search results

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 4 points 1 day ago

To make search more lucrative, they've enshitified it and went too far, but for a short time there were great quarterly resukts. Now they're slowly losing users. So they try AI to fix it up.

It's also a signal to the shareholders that they're implementing the latest buzzword, plus they're all worried AI will take off and they've missed that train.

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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When I’m told there’s power issues and to conserve power I drop my AC to 60 and leave all my lights on. Only way for them to fix the grid is to break it.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago

Literally rolling coal to own the cons

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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 159 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (30 children)

I had my energy company remove their LVTC smart meter this week after they started using it to shut off our condenser unit during our 100 degree days

The fact that it exists at all is bad enough, but they were doing this at a time when our AC was already malfunctioning due to low refrigerant. On the day they first shut it off, our house reached 94 degrees.

The program that the previous owner signed up for that enabled them to do this gave them a fucking two dollar a month discount.

I use a smart thermostat to optimize my home conditioning - having a second meter fucking with my schedule ends up making us all miserable. Energy providers need to stop fucking around and just build out their infrastructure to handle worst case peak loads, and enable customers to install solar to reduce peak loading to begin with.

The other thing that kills me about this is that our provider administers our city's solar electric subsidy program themselves. When i had them come out to give us a quote, they inflated their price by more than 100% because they knew what our electricity bill was. All they did was take our average monthly bill and multiplied it by the repayment period. I could have been providing them more energy to the grid at their peak load if they hadn't tried scamming me.

FUCK private energy providers.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Smart meters with this ability are great, when done well. Without them they have the ability to turn off all of your power if they need to. If they can't keep up with demand, they have to turn things off. It's better for them to have the ability to shut off a few appliances or decrease your AC usage rather than shut people down entirely.

People always complain that they don't want to give the energy company power over their electricity, but they already do. However, without this their power is total, and only total. With it they can moderate it. It's better if everyone has a smart meter instead of only people who care about others, and greedy people only look out for themselves.

I agree though, fuck private providers.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

I agree though, fuck private providers

If it was a public utility i'd feel very differently.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 83 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also they can build nuclear power generators for the data centers but never for the residential power grid.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 91 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Yeah, that thing that nobody wanted? Everybody has to have it. Fuck corporations and capitalism.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

We're going away folks, and nothing of any true value will be lost, except all the species that did live in homeostasis with the Earth that we're taking with us in our species' avarice induced murder-suicide

[–] millie@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Carlin had some good material, but this is an absolutely stupid mindset. We can cause an extreme level of ecological damage. Will the planet eventually recover? Quite possibly. But that's not a certainty, and in the mean time we're triggering a mass extinction precisely because irresponsible humans figure there's no way we can hurt the Earth and it's self-important hubris to think that we can.

But the time we're living through and the time we're heading into are all the proof we should need that it's actually hubris to assume our actions have no meaningful impact.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Immediate to Short-Term (Days to Centuries)

  • Hours to weeks: Power grids fail; nuclear reactors melt down without maintenance[11].
  • Months to decades: Urban areas flood as drainage systems fail; buildings decay from weather and plant growth[6][11].
  • 100–300 years: Steel structures collapse; concrete buildings crumble[5][7]. Most cities become overgrown forests[6].

Medium-Term (Thousands of Years)

  • 1,000 years: Visible surface structures (e.g., roads, monuments) are buried or eroded. Plastics fragment but persist chemically[5][7].
  • 10,000–250,000 years: Nuclear isotopes (e.g., plutonium-239) remain detectable in sediments and ice cores[7]. Mining tunnels fill with sediment but leave identifiable "industrial fossils"[7].
  • 500,000 years: Microplastics and polymer layers in ocean sediments endure[5][10].

Long-Term (Millions of Years)

  • 1–7 million years: Fossils of humans and domesticated animals persist. Geological strata show elevated carbon levels and mass extinction markers[4][8]. Deep mines and landfills remain as distinct layers[7][10].
  • 50–100 million years: Continental drift subducts surface evidence; satellites decay or drift into space[3][10]. Only deep geological traces (e.g., mine shafts, isotope ratios) might endure[3][10].
  • 250 million years: Next predicted mass extinction eradicates all mammals, including any remaining human traces[9].

Near-Permanent Traces

  • Space artifacts: Lunar landers, Mars rovers, and Voyager probes persist for billions of years[3][10].
  • Radio signals: Human broadcasts travel through space indefinitely at light speed[5].

Key Factors

  • Detection likelihood: Aliens or future species could find traces for 100+ million years via deep geological analysis or space exploration[5][10].
  • Total erasure: Requires Earth's destruction (e.g., solar expansion in 5 billion years)[10].

Citations: [1] Human extinction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_extinction [2] What If Humans Suddenly Went Extinct? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuOKTZISXhc [3] How long would it take for all traces of humans to be gone? https://www.reddit.com/r/answers/comments/1azu120/how_long_would_it_take_for_all_traces_of_humans/ [4] What would happen to Earth if humans went extinct? https://www.livescience.com/earth-without-people.html [5] How long before all human traces are wiped out? https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/2215950-how-long-before-all-human-traces-are-wiped-out/ [6] Vanishing Act: What Earth Will Look Like 100 Years After Humans Disappear - Brilliantio https://brilliantio.com/if-people-dissapeared-what-will-happen-to-earth-in-100-years/ [7] If humans became extinct, how long would it take for all ... https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/if-humans-became-extinct-how-long-would-it-take-for-all-traces-of-us-to-vanish [8] Nature will need up to five million years to fill the gaps caused by man-made mass extinctions, study finds https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/mass-extinctions-five-million-years-nature-mammals-crisis-animal-plants-pnas-aarhus-a8585066.html [9] Humans Will Go Extinct on Earth in 250 Million Years; Mass Extinction Will Occur Sooner if Burning Fossil Fuels Continues [Study] https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/49951/20240430/humans-will-go-extinct-earth-250-million-years-mass-extinction.htm [10] How long would it take for all evidence of humanity to be ... https://worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/153618/how-long-would-it-take-for-all-evidence-of-humanity-to-be-erased-from-earth [11] What Would Happen If Every Human On Earth Just Disappeared? https://www.scienceabc.com/humans/life-like-humans-suddenly-disappeared.html

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago

Stephen Baxter over here. I'm going back to bed, it won't change anything...

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (24 children)

Let’s do the math.

Let’s take an SDXl porn model, with no 4-step speed augmentations, no hand written quantization/optimization schemes like svdquant, or anything, just an early, raw inefficient implementation:

https://www.baseten.co/blog/40-faster-stable-diffusion-xl-inference-with-nvidia-tensorrt/#sdxl-with-tensorrt-in-production

So 2.5 seconds on an A100 for a single image. Let’s batch it (because that’s what’s done in production), and run it on the now popular H100 instead, and very conservatively assume 1.5 seconds per single image (though it’s likely much faster).

That’s on a 700W SXM Nvidia H100. Usually in a server box with 7 others, so let’s say 1000W including its share of the CPU and everything else. Let’s say 1400W for networking, idle time, whatever else is going on.

That’s 2 kJ, or 0.6 watt hours.

…Or about the energy of browsing Lemmy for 30-60 seconds. And again, this is an high estimate, but also a fraction of a second of usage for a home AC system.


…So yeah, booby pictures take very little energy, and the usage is going down dramatically.

Training light, open models like Deepseek or Qwen or SDXL takes very little energy, as does running them. The GPU farms they use are tiny, and dwarfed by something like an aluminum plant.

What slurps energy is AI Bros like Musk or Altman trying to brute force their way to a decent model by scaling out instead of increasing efficiency, and mostly they’re blowing that out of proportion to try the hype the market and convince them AI will be expensive and grow infinitely (so people will give them money).

That isn’t going to work very long. Small on-device models are going to be too cheap to compete.

https://escholarship.org/uc/item/2kc978dg

So this is shit, they should be turning off AI farms too, but your porn images are a drop in the bucket compared to AC costs.


TL;DR: There are a bazillion things to flame AI Bros about, but inference for small models (like porn models) is objectively not one of them.

The problem is billionaires.

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