kandoh

This is a thread about Elon Musks dad naming his son after a nazi's scifi character, I'm simply expanding on the information being provided.

I am not American so there really isn't any reason I'd bother defending the US.

Why are you posting when there is a genocide going on?

Isn't stopping a genocide worth you going Luigi and sacrificing yourself in an attempt to stop it?

What's your life worth compared to the genocide happening right now? You not doing everything in your power is basically you condoning it.

Maybe doing Luigi is too extreme, fine. Are you still paying your taxes? The taxes funding a genocide and you're still paying them? How come? You're not willing to go to prison to stop genocide?

I think you should do more than not vote and post online if you really do care.

Spreading the blame around is not downplaying.

Imagine:

A one off episode of Strange New Worlds where the crew are all transformed into 90 year olds.

Guest staring William Shatner as old young Kirk.

USSR did the same thing, definitely not an exclusively American sin

Civilian Casualties

• Afghanistan: Civilian deaths from U.S. military operations have been significant, with incidents such as the deaths of two detainees at Bagram in 2002 due to torture[2][4].
• Iraq: Civilian casualties peaked in 2006 with over 29,000 deaths. Between 2003 and 2024, civilian deaths fluctuated, with many unaccounted for due to the chaotic nature of war[7].
• Drone Strikes: U.S. drone strikes in countries like Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia have caused numerous civilian deaths, though exact numbers are debated[3][4].

Alleged War Crimes

• Torture: The use of "enhanced interrogation techniques" (e.g., waterboarding) at facilities like Guantanamo Bay and CIA black sites has been widely condemned as violations of the Geneva Conventions[2].
• Bagram Facility: Inhumane treatment and torture led to the deaths of two Afghan detainees in 2002. Military coroners ruled these homicides[2].
• Maiwand District Killings: A "Kill Team" of U.S. soldiers murdered Afghan civilians between 2009–2010 and collected body parts as trophies[2].
• Extraordinary Renditions: Suspected terrorists were transferred to third countries for interrogation under questionable conditions[2].

Citations: [1] [PDF] CASUALTY STATUS https://www.defense.gov/casualty.pdf [2] United States war crimes - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes [3] Civilians Killed & Wounded | Costs of War https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians [4] [PDF] Annual Report on Civilian Casualties in Connection with United ... https://media.defense.gov/2022/Sep/27/2003086234/-1/-1/1/ANNUAL-REPORT-ON-CIVILIAN-CASUALTIES-IN-CONNECTION-WITH-UNITED-STATES-MILITARY-OPERATIONS-IN-2021.PDF [5] - THE AUTHORITY TO PROSECUTE TERRORISTS UNDER THE ... https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-109shrg36934/html/CHRG-109shrg36934.htm [6] Currently listed entities https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/ntnl-scrt/cntr-trrrsm/lstd-ntts/crrnt-lstd-ntts-en.aspx [7] Civilian deaths in Iraq war 2003-2024 - Statista https://www.statista.com/statistics/269729/documented-civilian-deaths-in-iraq-war-since-2003/ [8] Global War on Terror | George W. Bush Library https://www.georgewbushlibrary.gov/research/topic-guides/global-war-terror

Once upon a time that would've been a fight the news organization would've jumped at for the free publicity and easy win.

Calling a comment about rachel fucking maddow on lemmy 'holding our leaders accountable' is straight up pathetic shit. Go actually do something or find a new tune to sing.

Sometimes it's okay to discuss things and consider them from a different angle than the one you're used to. It can help give you a new perspective on things. Broadening your understanding of things.

The Battle of Stalingrad ended on February 2, 1943, with the surrender of German forces after months of intense fighting, marking a major turning point in World War II.

D-Day occurred on June 6, 1944, marking the Allied invasion of Nazi-occupied France.

Your response to me only makes sense if you think I am saying that the Soviets could have beaten the Nazis on their own with no lend lease program or the British holding out against the Nazis.

Am I saying that? Can you quote one of the sections of my comments that is giving you that impression?

If you would stop getting defensive for no reason and actually read my comments, maybe you'll actually be able to understand what I am saying?

Let me lay it out, as clear as fucking possible for you:

• Americans provided material support to allies fighting the nazis

• The goal of this is not to stop fascist ideology, but to keep the status quo maintained in Europe and Asia

• The Soviets win Stalingrad and begin pushing west. Nazi defeat is all but inevitable.

• American inaction here would result in a red german and red france. Possibly even red Italy and the overthrowing of Franco's fascist regime in Spain.

• Americans prioritize victory in Europe over the Pacific, even though the Japanese navy is the bigger threat to them.

Ergo:

• It's not the defeat of fascism that the Americans were interested in, it was maintaining a status quo and preventing communism from spreading through Europe

THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATRS OF AMERICA

You're welcome to insult me all you like, but then have the balls to answer the question i proposed to you.

They've elevated themselves as high as it is possible to go, so the only way for them to get higher is by lowering us.