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Donald Trump has said that he will withhold funding for New York City if presumptive Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani becomes mayor after November’s general election and doesn’t do the “right thing.”

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 84 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Just FYI: withholding money is financial abuse, a favorite tactic of abusers, since it leaves no visible marks until significant damage is done.

[–] regedit@feddit.online 20 points 1 day ago

I'm so tired of people not telling this old bunch of shit sacks to fuck off. I'd have so much respect for any threatened tRump victim if they just told him the fuck off after shits like that.

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[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This shows that waiting to 2026 and hoping that Dems will take over Congress is really pointless. They won't acknowledge and certify any results that aren't their people.

At this point we either fight or accept end of US as a democracy.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We do not fight on their terms.

They want battles in the streets. They want explosives, dead feds and cops.

They want 258,000,000 dead Americans. They don't give two shits what side it's on.

A Mayoral election giving the elite this much terror is extremely telling. The GOP didn't work the top down, they worked the bottom up. Local governments, states, and the branches of the Federal government.

If NYC can get this guy elected, then the doubt that fascists need to instill in the idea of democracy gets bolstered, and they have to do things that will be even more unpopular than kidnapping immigrants.

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 51 points 1 day ago

This Mamdani guy is BAD NEWS! He wants to GIVE YOU BACK your Tax Dollars in the Form of Food and Healthcare and Transportation! That's LUDICROUS! DO the Right Thing New York and Elect the Politician who will CONTINUE GIVING YOUR TAX DOLLARS TO THE BILLIONAIRES DESTROYING YOUR DAILY WAY OF LIFE!

[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Good thing New York doesn’t need it and provides money for the federal government. It’s more like New York will stop till they get their shit together.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Another way to escalate this situation is to raise the taxes on billionaires enough to account for the missing revenue from the federal government. Itemize it and call it the "Trump tax".

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Seize all of Trump's assets in NYC

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Excellent idea. Dems would be foolish not to do this.

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[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Peter Pan Trump. The most insecure little boy

[–] YoiksAndAway@lemmy.zip 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And we're right back to election interference. I wonder if something will be done about it this time.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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This is just taco talk. Nothing will come of it.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This sounds like more of the "socialism never works [because conservatives/capitalists sabotage it]"

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[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Can someone share some insight with us non Americans, how close are you to a civil war? Between the LA protests and this it seems very imminent

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Eh, bread and circuses. People are still relatively comfortable and complacent.

[–] fitgse@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except we can barely afford the bread and circuses right now. This is true of people like me that 5 years ago thought they were doing really well…

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[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

Three missed paychecks, and we’ll be there.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a "cold" civil war currently. And one side is just submitting and rolling over.

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[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not very close, despite the online rhetoric. Life continues and our feudal lords play their games.

If things continue to get worse and another lunatic succeeds Trump, I think talk of secession will start to gain more traction in the West. But even then, it would take something really major (and not something the Lemmy politics crowd considers major, but something that actually snaps average liberals out of their comas) to garner enough support for it to actually occur.

Western secession would be an uphill battle; it's just as likely we'd lose an armed conflict with the rest of the country, and an all-out war would be absolutely terrifying.

[–] formulaBonk@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean they’re arresting citizens with brown skin now so not too long before being a democratic registered voter is a crime.

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not anywhere close, in my opinion. People have these ideas that only right wingers have guns and red state vs. blue state but my conservative relatives who live in the country and hunt are afraid to go to cities. They ask me all the time if I’m nervous living in one and there’s a school bus stop by my house where kids get dropped off.

A related point is that in the last Civil War, there was a somewhat blurry but pretty clear regional divide. Now, it’s an urban vs. rural divide. I live in Orleans Parish (aka county) in Louisiana and we went 82% for Harris/Waltz, roughly the same as Manhattan. I’m pretty sure California had more Trump voters than Texas. If a gun brawl breaks out, it’s going be local and contained.

Also, what’s Meal Team Six gonna do in a real battle? Most Trump voters are like 60+ years old and watch Fox News all day. Nobody wants the smoke.

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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 17 points 1 day ago

Billionaires are happy to say people work harder when they're desperate and boy the billionaires are working hard to smear this guy.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

The problem with this, and so many other problems in America right now - is that they'll only ever be fixed by Democrats swinging the other direction.

The majority of whom will only go as far as they believe their corporate sponsors will allow. Preventing real progress.

This is the mechanism and economic base structure of "democracy" in the west which prevents real progress and real change from happening to the structures and systems we have.

The result? An ever increasing risk of populist fascism, which may become increasingly systemic in its use of deadly force and violent repression (yes, things can go further unless the structure itself is forced in the other direction - in a revolutionary manner).

To clarify: Only leftwing revolution can fix and prevent this happening again. Hence why Biden and establishment "leftists" were unable to prevent the current era - because it requires a revolutionary movement much further left to do these adjustments to democracy, rights, and the state of western politics.

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[–] iamanoldguy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess they'll have to withhold they're federal taxes to help pay for the shortfall.

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[–] catty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

This all feels like some carnival played-out Republican PR seeking drama with actors on both sides.

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