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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Would they ban the person if it was a pro Israel speech?

If no, then the school admins can fuck right off

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

it’s not “pro palestine”, it’s not “anti israel”,
it’s anti genocide of palestinians by israelis…
they try to keep framing it as that, as some nationalist thing….

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 167 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Fucking even MIT gone mega what fhe fuck.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 114 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Desperate to prove their fascist bona fides in the hopes of retaining funding. It will come back to bite them. There's no winning way to play this game but there's and honorable and a dishonorable way.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 62 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is Harvard the only big boy that stepped up? There has to be more, right?

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[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 25 points 6 days ago (5 children)

MIT owns the majority of the nonvoting shares in Bose. They don't need funding.

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[–] Ketchup@reddthat.com 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why isn’t the slippery politician like position to just say: we are not responsible for the free thought of our graduates or their opinions, nor are we able to bypass the system of accreditation our student earned their education through. Only departments and professors are allowed to award credit for work, and the the administrators do not govern the integrity of their educational success.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago

They could say it, but I think they realize Trump acts on feelings and not reason, and could cut off their access to funds, so they want to appease him and make him feel good. Basic dictator and appeaser stuff.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 59 points 6 days ago (1 children)

MIT is deep in bed with the MIC. Their administration is not friendly towards Arabs unless those Arabs have a line of credit with Boeing or Raytheon.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 days ago (11 children)
[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Military industrial complex

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[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

Military Industrial Complex

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 54 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

Most big colleges have helped evict and deport people on studen visas. They cooperate and are complicit.

I'm betting it wouldn't be difficult to find links between MITs research and development labs and weapons and technologies companies involved in Gaza.

Societies are sometimes like big interconnected machines, large parts become complicit in denial, repression, and destruction.

Edit: yep, as expected:

Since at least 2015, MIT laboratories have received millions of dollars from the Israeli Ministry of Defense for projects to develop algorithms that help drone swarms to better pursue escaping targets; to improve underwater surveillance technology; and support military aircraft evade missiles. Two of these sponsorships were renewed since October 7th, 2023, while one came up for renewal in December 2024. Second, MIT maintains institutional collaborations through the ILP, LGO, CSAIL, and MIT Energy Initiative programs with companies that sell vast amounts of weapons to Israel. These include Elbit Systems, Israel’s largest military contractor, as well as Maersk, Lockheed Martin, and Caterpillar. These collaborations grant genocide profiteers privileged access to MIT talent and expertise.

P.S That drone swarm technology is part of why 83% of American doctors who have provided care in Gaza, have reported treating children for being shot in the head. Source: NPR's The American Life.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 27 points 6 days ago (5 children)

to better pursue escaping targets

What the fuck.

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[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"War is a racket. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

...

War like any other racket, pays high dividends to the very few. The cost of operations is always transferred to the people who do not profit."

General Smedley Butler - War is a Racket (1935)

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

I'd argue that health insurance also qualifies.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)

MIT didn't "go maga". They are intrinsically tied to government contracts.

Basically all STEM research at the university level is funded by a mixture of corporate and government interests. Even NSF grants (remember when those were a thing...) tend to focus on areas that anyone with a keen eye can see having military applications. One of my favorites was the massive push for graph analytics 10 or 15 years back and people not realizing that was a roundabout way of saying "analyze social media".

MIT in particular is VERY dependent on this because they need to be "elite". Smaller state universities can shuffle money around and focus on other funding sources, to a degree. MIT can't because their staff inherently have good networks and would jump ship the moment their perks start going away.

Contrast that with Harvard where they still get lots of "donations" from rich and powerful lawyers (and politicians) and where the publicity for "fighting the government" can heavily offset all the international students getting put in a concentration camp before their checks clear.

[–] MrVilliam@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Okay, but on a timeline measured in years instead of quarters, it's really fucking stupid to punish the factory that churns out engineers for your war machines, right? The government funds STEM education, yielding STEM experts, yielding STEM productivity. Stop funding it, stop making STEM experts, vastly reduce STEM productivity. Pair this with massive reductions on immigrants (and torch the economy to lower desire to come here also) and how does this not lead to brain drain dark ages and empire collapse?

Is it more complicated than this? Am I missing something? Because usually when somebody thinks that everybody else is a fucking moron, they are the fucking moron, and I'm worried that maybe I'm just such a dumb fucking moron that I can't see what a dumb fucking moron I am.

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The Democratic Party platform is explicitly pro-genocide.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

First they ignore you,

then they laugh at you,

then they fight you, <-- you are here

then you win.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 148 points 6 days ago (3 children)

"We encourage students inquiry and critical thinking" "no not like that!"

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[–] FreeWilliam@lemmy.ml 67 points 5 days ago

"You showed the world that MIT wants a free Palestine".

“You called for a permanent ceasefire in Gaza, and you stood in solidarity with the pro-Palestine activists on campus. You faced threats, intimidation, and suppression coming from all directions, especially your own university officials, but you prevailed because the MIT community that I know would never tolerate a genocide."

“Right now, while we prepare to graduate and move forward with our lives, there are no universities left in Gaza..We are watching Israel try to wipe Palestine off the face of the earth, and it is a shame that MIT is a part of it.”

“This means that Israel’s assault on the Palestinian people is not only aided and abetted by our country, but our school. As scientists, engineers, academics, and leaders, we have a commitment to support life, support aid efforts, and call for an arms embargo, and keep demanding, now as alumni, that MIT cuts the ties,"

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 91 points 5 days ago (4 children)
[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 48 points 5 days ago (1 children)

DARPA money is a hell of a drug?

I have no idea if this is a real thing or not.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 25 points 5 days ago

If there's one thing I know: any string of random words is likely a project studied or funded by DARPA.

MIT team receives $10.4 million biomanufacturing grant from DARPA With the grant, MIT’s Biomanufacturing Research Program aims to develop new technologies that can rapidly manufacture biologic drugs on the battlefield.

https://news.mit.edu/2013/biomanufacturing-research-program-grant-0918

So, yeah, DARPA money for drugs is a drug for MIT.

Old article. But... There's lots out there.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=darpa+.mil+.edu+mit+drugs

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

I'm sure a lot of questions would be answered by checking the universities donations.

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Research needs money for happening. You need to pay researchers, structures, various staff. Even more so a fancy structure as MIT

Israel (and American Zionists) have the power to cancel a sizeable amount of research contracts with MIT. (AIPAC shows how well organised they are, originally for defence from antisemitism, now for defence from… Palestine? I guess? 🤷‍♂️ )

Then for MIT (that is a corporation like another) comes to damage control. On one hand PR, on the other money.

MIT took the money, Stanford (in the case of DEI) took the PR.

I am still 100% sure neither of the two can give a damn of Palestinians, Israel or DEI. It’s just MBA stuff 🤷‍♂️

(I have my opinions on the situation in Palestine but I don’t want this post to be about that)

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

AIPAC pressure.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

Self censoring is not the answer... Come on MIT, you know better.

Well, now that I say that, MIT has a not perfect track record when it comes to legal matters and policy decisions. I think of Aaron Swartz for instance...

[–] himmyguap@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Too late. Megha Vemuri already exposed MIT and is a star with her Andor-level speech.

[–] Zanathos@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Strisand effect for sure!

[–] hakase@lemm.ee 59 points 5 days ago

Kinda brilliant on the class president's part - still give the speech and get the media coverage for it, but do it before commencement so they're less likely to steal your diploma as a result.

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago
[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Wow that's pathetic, so theres no distinction left between MIT and that Bible belt shit hole university that didn't let a student graduate after she came out as gay

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 15 points 5 days ago

Whenever I try to believe things aren't bad and that I am delusional for learning how to gun, stuff like this happens. My hopes for a peaceful and boring future are dying.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 34 points 5 days ago

Massachusetts Institute of Terror

[–] mapmyhike@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You would think that a college would know that the Palestinian people are not Hamas and the Palestinians are the ones being genocided by Israel so that tRump can build a golf course. MIT certainly doesn't have the brightest. Maybe the most cowardice.

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[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago (5 children)
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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

make a list of all these fascists. people must not forget those who stood firmly on the side of genocide.

edit: you don't need to make distinguishing marks on their clothes when they're already wearing the swastika armband. "oh please don't mistreat the fascists, that makes you a fascist!"

[–] nimisnimi@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
make a list of all these fascists.

Is that your next suggestion, omg: "Let them wear special distinguishing marks on their clothes too. Like, some kind of a star sign"?!

/S

That's seriously creepy, dude.

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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Great that she spoke out but... Honey, where the fuck did you think you got accepted four years ago? MIT loves war.

edit: horny beavers hot for big missiles!

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

These universities largely deserve their Trump funding cuts.

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