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[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 245 points 6 days ago (2 children)

No thanks. I’m perfectly capable of coming up with incorrect answers on my own.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 42 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's not care. Its want. We don't want AI.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (14 children)

FR I think more people actively dislike it, which is a form of care.

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[–] Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] FreddyNO@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Fuck the ai os wave. Do not force that shit into my life. I'm fine with using ai, but ai is not gonna stare over my shoulder. I decide when I use it. Never going back from Linux. Still stuck with a samsung phone but we'll see

[–] ZoraQ@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I switched to GrapheneOS with zero regrets. Mainly because Google is deeply embeded in the Android ecosystem. There was no way i was going to add Samdung AI on top of that mess.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 168 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Even non tech people I talk to know AI is bad because the companies are pushing it so hard. They intuit that if the product was good, they wouldn't be giving it away, much less begging you to use it.

[–] lev@slrpnk.net 86 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You're right - and even if the user is not conscious of this observation, many are subconsciously behaving in accordance with it. Having AI shoved into everything is offputting.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 67 points 5 days ago

I think people care.

They care so much they actively avoid them.

[–] RaptorBenn@lemmy.world 52 points 5 days ago

Imagine that, a new fledgingly technology hamfistedly inserted into every part of the user experience, while offering meager functionality in exchange for the most aggressive data privacy invasion ever attempted on this scale, and no one likes it.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 125 points 6 days ago (15 children)

One of the mistakes they made with AI was introducing it before it was ready (I’m making a generous assumption by suggesting that “ready” is even possible). It will be extremely difficult for any AI product to shake the reputation that AI is half-baked and makes absurd, nonsensical mistakes.

This is a great example of capitalism working against itself. Investors want a return on their investment now, and advertisers/salespeople made unrealistic claims. AI simply isn’t ready for prime time. Now they’ll be fighting a bad reputation for years. Because of the situation tech companies created for themselves, getting users to trust AI will be an uphill battle.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 66 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Apple Intelligence and the first versions of Gemini are the perfect examples of this.

iOS still doesn’t do what was sold in the ads, almost a full year later.

Edit: also things like email summary don’t work, the email categories are awful, notification summaries are straight up unhinged, and I don’t think anyone asked for image playground.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 50 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Insert 'Full Self Driving' Here.

Also, outlook's auto alt text function told me that a conveyor belt was a picture of someone's screen today.

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[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 59 points 5 days ago (42 children)

Maybe I'm just getting old, but I honestly can't think of any practical use case for AI in my day-to-day routine.

ML algorithms are just fancy statistics machines, and to that end, I can see plenty of research and industry applications where large datasets need to be assessed (weather, medicine, ...) with human oversight.

But for me in my day to day?

I don't need a statistics bot making decisions for me at work, because if it was that easy I wouldn't be getting paid to do it.

I don't need a giant calculator telling me when to eat or sleep or what game to play.

I don't need a Roomba with a graphics card automatically replying to my text messages.

Handing over my entire life's data just so a ML algorithm might be able to tell me what that one website I visited 3 years ago that sold kangaroo testicles was isn't a filing system. There's nothing I care about losing enough to go the effort of setting up copilot, but not enough to just, you know, bookmark it, or save it with a clear enough file name.

Long rant, but really, what does copilot actually do for me?

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 53 points 5 days ago (16 children)

Reducing computer performance:

Turbo button 🤝 AI button

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 49 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Y'all remember when 3D TVs were going to be revolutionary?

[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 27 points 5 days ago (3 children)

@Agent641 @dgerard remember when it was INEVITABLE that the deeds to your house were going to be an NFT?

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How did this thread blow up so much?

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 13 points 3 days ago

sometimes a thread breaks containment, the "all" algorithm feeds it to even more people, and we see that Lemmy really does replace Reddit

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 32 points 5 days ago (18 children)

AI on phones peaked with MS Contana on W10 mobile circa 2014. "Remind me to jack off when I'm home". And it fucking did what i wanted. I didn't even have to say words, i could type it into a text box... it also worked offline.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 19 points 5 days ago

Bad news for people who use google: they've removed the same feature, so their assistant is more useless than Cortana a decade ago (only a mild exaggeration)

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Do they care? No! Will they push more AI? Yes! Will they listen to the consumers? I don't think so.
Same thing happens with lot of products over the years. Companies push new stuff that we don't want, and a year later becomes a regular thing! They push AI day by day, from websites AI chat help to in app AI assistant. Do consumers like it? No, but still you gonna find it everywhere! and now they push it in computers and looks what it happens! No sales!

Call me crazy, but at some point, they need to look at their data or their consumers and do the right thing.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 21 points 5 days ago (5 children)

It's maddening that they did actually take away the headphone jack from all modern phones and there's nothing we can do about it even though it objectively sucks

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But there's no space on the new thin phones.

STFU yes there is. Gimme my 3.5mm.

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 63 points 6 days ago

Oh we care alright. We care about keeping it OUT of our FUCKING LIVES.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 52 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (13 children)

That's not fair! I care! A lot!

Just had to buy a new laptop for new place of employment. It took real time, effort, and care, but I've finally found a recent laptop matching my hardware requirements and sense of aesthetics at a reasonable price, without that hideous copilot button :)

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[–] TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml 62 points 6 days ago (26 children)

AI is going to be this eras Betamax, HD-Dvd, or 3d TV glasses. It doesn't do what was promised and nobody gives a shit.

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[–] yarr 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

These "AI Computers" are a solution looking for a problem. The marketing people naming these "AI" computers think that AI is just some magic fairy dust term you can add to a product and it will increase demand.

What's the "killer features" of these new laptops, and what % price increase is it worth?

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 48 points 6 days ago (7 children)

WTF is an AI computer? Is that some marketing bullshit?

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[–] Kewlio251@midwest.social 36 points 5 days ago (3 children)

My problem is that it's not that fucking useful. I got the Pixel 9 specifically because of its advertised AI chip for the assistant and I swear it's just gotten worse since the Pixel 7. I used to be able to ask Google anything through the assistant, and now 90% of my questions are answered with "can't find the information."

They also advertised (or at least heavily alluded to) the use of the AI chip when you are in low network areas but it works just as good outside of 4g+ coverage as it ever did without the stupid chip.

Whats the point of adding AI branded nonsense if there's no practical use for it. And that doesn't even start to cover the issues with AI's reliability as a source of information. Garbage in = garbage out.

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