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What do you keep living for? Is there a specific person, goal, or idea that you work for? Is there no meaning to life in your opinion?

Context: I've been reading Camus and Sartre, and thinking about how their ideas interact with hard determinism.

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[–] galanthus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

Well, Camus and Sartre are not exactly about finding meaning, but dealing with the world with no inherent meaning.

No advice here, but I suppose it would be rather difficult to argue for objective meaning of life under atheism, which seems prevalent here on lemmy, so I would consider the feasibility of the existentialist project, in creating meaning or living with the condradiction between our desire of meaning and the meaningless world.

For the meaning in life to is explore and play with my best friend…my wife. Even my career has switched to something that feels more like play than a grind for a corporation who enjoys the lion’s share of my labour.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

It's a great relief to come to the realization that there is no grand inherent meaning to life, and no need for one. No constant worrying about what the meaning is and how much time you have left to "figure it out", no need to feel like there's some big thing you have to accomplish, no pressure to be someone important or make an impact on the world. No need to find the correct religion or moral code. It's simple: we're all (humans and animals) just trying to live our lives in peace and find happiness, so as for goals: Live and let live. Try to not hurt each other, and better yet, help each other--helping^1^ someone isn't always easy but it's a good feeling. It creates a feeling of meaning/purpose better than most anything else I can think of.

1: besides doing some task for someone, it could also be as simple as a smile, a kind word, or just listening/being there.

[–] hash@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 hours ago

The closest thing to meaning I believe in is derived from evolution. Meaning for me is to lift myself and those around me.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I have a lot of books left to read.

[–] CheeryLBottom@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Books and computer games for me

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 18 hours ago

You could say, in a way, that I live to convey what to live for.

Perhaps I've done a little too much LSD (probably not), but I have a certain innate understanding of recovering from rock bottom. I want to help people help themselves, as psychedelics have done for me. I hope the insight I have about myself can translate to others' struggles. Any number of things could end up helping or hurting someone, and I'm doing my best to provide resources to people on learning how to do more than simply tolerate life. Psychonautics were what helped me, but what would help my friends, or people I don't know at all?

First will come my psychonautic journal on harm reduction in substance use (my main hobby in life), but then a book about the hardships and joys of life in a more broad sense.

The world hurts right now. It needs all the help it can get, so I do what I can. When a friend hurts, I listen, and I do my best to make them smile.

Truly, simply being a human is good enough for me.

[–] ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 18 hours ago

It's about connection. You can feel it when it's there with your loved ones, in art, in nature, anywhere you can find it. You can't think it into being. You can only open yourself up to it when it's there.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

I have discovered that the meaning of life (for me) is to just exist. Whatever I do in life, I was meant to and builds on why I am here.

[–] braxy29@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

there is no inherent meaning to life.

i choose to continue living each day because a) i am still enjoying myself enough to stick around, b) i'm a chicken and nothing has motivated me to voluntarily face quicker death just yet, c) i am committed to not fucking up my kids in that particular way if i can continue to avoid it, and d) i do work that matters and eases the suffering of others to create meaning for myself.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 10 points 23 hours ago

Meaning must be generated, not found.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's shits and giggles all the way down, my friend!

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago

until someone shits and giggles

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

There isn't any... you must provide the meaning to your life on your own

[–] megane_kun@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think “What is the meaning of (my) life?” is not a question that we should be focusing on. It assumes that there is meaning to life. Neither is saying “Life is meaningless,” as it assumes exactly that. Both approaches presupposes an answer.

I'd rather think about "What can I do today/tomorrow/this week/this year/in this life?" That is a lot more digestible than chasing a meaning, or dismissing what could be meaningful about my actions.

I'm already here, so.... What is it under my control that I can do something about? What can I do about it? Something along those lines.


PS:

The overall tone of my response might be nihilist, or having shades of stoicism, but I am personally biased towards Epicureanism (not the present-day meaning, but the more classical meaning) which gives emphasis to ataraxia, or put very loosely, that state of contentedness. It's not about avoiding pain and preferring (temporary) pleasure, but rather a more stable state absent of pain and having pleasure that is brought about by mindful actions. I am not exactly learned in this so please take my words with a pinch of salt (or several).

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[–] shadow_figurine@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

i only do what i want to do, no more or less

[–] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Logically I am a determinist and a nihilist. It's the only thing that makes sense to me.

But I can't live life like that. Life is lived through feelings and it feels like I have free will. So I feel meaning by contributing positively and that my choices in life matter.

So, I contribute, try to do good, be helpful and nice to people, and also fulfill some hedonistic desires such as good food, lovemaking, shows, etc.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

I'm not religious or spiritual so I'm a pure hedonist. I work so that I can maintain a comfortable life for my wife and I with vacations and other treats. In my 30s but not very interested in having children; might be tempted to adopt in my 40s but will need to see where I am at that point in my life.

Essentially the goal is to be happy as a clam (that is a strange phrase now I consider it). It would be nice to author something to leave my name for future generations but I kind of get that from contributing to open source projects when I get the chance.

[–] underreacting@literature.cafe 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I want to see my planted apple tree bear fruit for the first time (it's looking good this year so far!), and then I want to try splicing in a branch of my neighbours cherry tree, and then I want to keep building gradually to have a mutant tree with all kinds of fruit throughout the season. I'll be the creator of my own Tree of Life.

Small goals, small joys, small triumphs - it's what'll make my life grand, I believe.

[–] theblips@lemm.ee 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'm religious so that's pretty much figured out for me lol

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago
[–] theblips@lemm.ee 2 points 20 hours ago

Roman catholic

I live to be a good person. Figuring out what that means is a lot of reading, reasoning, and experimentation. I'm not sure you even need to justify wanting to be a good person, but maybe it is good to do good.

[–] SamB@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Hey, this is broken. What if I dedicate my life fixing it, that would be cool. That’s how I found my meaning.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm no well read philosopher, but the idea that life has a meaning is repulsive to me. It implies that there is a correct state of affairs, and introduces the possibility that you've done something wrong, that you failed to fulfill some purpose. Nuts to that, there are no wrong choices, besides the obvious ones like murder and not brushing your teeth

[–] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Interesting perspective. I think I kinda agree.

I have a logical view of the universe as deterministic and that nothing matters, but my feelings contradict this, which is fine.

However, the thought that life HAS to have meaning as something negative is a new perspective, in that it implies moral and ethics.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Meaning to me necessitates having gold teeth. You don't need anything else in life if you can glint at people.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 5 points 1 day ago

There is none. You get used to it.

[–] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm not sure if believe in a "meaning" to life, but I'm here for a good time. I'm married (2nd time) with 3 kids. I work to support us and pay the bills. But why do I keep living? Why not kill myself in leiu having a cup of coffee? Because death is inevitable and if it's going to happen anyway, I can use the brief time here to experience all that I can.

I figure the Universe is going to go on with or without me and there's not a thing I can do to change anything. But I'm not here to change the Universe, I'm here so it can change me. I'm a bird soaring through an infinite void with a brief passing through a bright window. Why not appreciate the view while it lasts? And if I can, why not try to make anyone's else's brief time out of the void a good time too? Life is absurd, existence is chaos, and it's all just funny as absolute shit.

I think really, there's no reason for anything but ice cream is good, hikes in the woods are rad, hanging out with pets and friends is joy. Why stop doing that just because nothing matters?

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago

Because death is inevitable and if it's going to happen anyway, I can use the brief time here to experience all that I can.

There it is. As far as we know, this is the one chance we have at existence. Revel in it.

[–] zerozaku@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Damn. I'm saving this in my notes.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Ive been lucky to have discovered Stoicism early in life and that what has been driving me for decades now!

To put it shortly Stoicism focuses on self growth with things like identifying natural human virtues (need for knowledge, justice, temperance, courage) and focusing life around improving those. This is expressed through a princicle called dichotomy of control which says that there are things that are out of our control like death that we shouldn't focus on and things that are like natural virtues that are something we can do to improve upon.

It also deconstructed and included all of the cool contemporary ideas like mindfulness and being cosmopolitan two millenia ago so its a really great suite of natural philosophies that survived the test of time.

Stoicism is also low key Idealist as in your natural perception of your own virtues and state is the only real thing that matters which is what makes this ideology so much more freeing. You don't judge yourself against some mystical ideal but to your own perception of purpose and growth.

It's an easy, frictionless and a highly rewarding way to live :)

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Stoicism can sometimes read like a very early form of cognitive behavioral therapy

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

You're not far off - it was put together by dudes who just wanted to socialize and talk philosophy and metaphysic on a porch which is called Stoa thus literally Stoics.

CBT is actually heavily inspired by Stoicism and the author openly credits Stoicism and especially Epictetus :)

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