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ICE Can Now Enter Your Home Without a Warrant to Look for Migrants, DOJ Memo Says
(dailyboulder.com)
John Yoo's legacy.
this post was submitted on 26 Apr 2025
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So I really dislike having guns in the home since I have young children. At this point I'm willing to consider it. I don't have a room for a massive gun safe and nor do I know what gun to get for home defense. What resources are out there to help me find a starting point?
What gun will provide home defense against an ICE SWAT team? Seems to me that a gun in this situation means someone you care about will get seriously injured or die. And/or go to jail for murder.
Makes me think investing in a Halon fire suppression system could be useful. Along with gas masks for everyone.
If you are uncertain what type of gun to get for home defense, id strongly recommend taking training courses before considering. They'll help you get comfortable with one that works for you and your use cases.
General: https://theliberalgunclub.com/
Black resources: https://www.blackgirlsshoot.org/ https://naaga.co/
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If you're in a city/state without resources, connect with those websites. You might be able to start your own chapter.
Just wanted to add that since ICE agents are just walking around doing shit without identifying themselves, anyone could walk into your house and rob/rape/murder you while claiming to be ICE if you resist.
Just want to make it clear that this opens up a whole lot of home invasions.
Exactly! have no warrants and don't identify themselves; they don't even have a uniform or badges. I do not care who they say they are, anyone can say they are ICE to get into my home. Do we honestly believe that people are not going to do that? Like be real, this is a flashing beacon of hope to criminals.
This is a blatant violation of the 4th amendment, and the cure for it is the 2nd amendment.
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ICE would get a face full of lead from my home
Remember, none of this is restricted to actual gang members.
If they can deport anyone who is a member of a Venezuelan gang to a prison camp without trial then, oops, turns out everyone they don't like is a member of a Venezuelan gang.
You can prove you're not? Too bad. That would require a trial. You don't get one of those, because we say you're a member of a Venezuelan gang.
See how this works?
ICE are Trump's sturmabteilung. If he's allowed to get away with any of this, it will not be long before he starts turning them on anyone who openly disagrees with him.
Garcia was deported to El Salvador with alleged Venezuelan gang members, but he wasnt Venezuelan, so they just declared him MS-13 instead.
Facts dont matter, they'll just create "alternative facts" that fit their narrative.
This.
Since Due Process is no longer a thing, anybody can immediately be called an enemy of the state.
For conservatives: say something bad about Biden? Guess what? MAGA is now a gang and you will end up in El Salvador. No proof needed.
All they have to do is follow the law. Law says they can call anyone a terrorist or national security threat and that removes people's rights. This has been law for years. Now, Republicans are using it because they know they will not get in trouble.
You don't have to be in a gang. They will say standing outside of a Home Depot is a lawful reason to send you to a South American gulag. Because Republicans will not get in trouble.
Waiting for the first story of a shootout.
I already know which side I'm rooting for.
Well that'll be interesting in all of those stand your ground states.
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The fuck they can.
Today sounds like a great day for Congress to abolish ICE.
Remember when we were told that kids had to keep dying so we could be allowed to keep guns in our home in case the government decides to break down our doors one day??? Member that? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
No way, do you mean all that 2nd amendment talk was just marketing to sell more guns!?
Can you believe it! Who knew?
My second amendment rights say otherwise
Anyone want to build an exploding house?
Im not American but if someone wants this idea id love to read about it some day
Edit: spelling
"Them there folks" in the red run welfare states will use stand your ground. WTF, ICE should be renamed to Gestapo or NKVD.
I'd love to see them try
Doesn’t the US incorporate castle doctrine principles - an affirmative defense to criminal homicide occurring within a home? Combine that with lax to nonexistent gun control and a high gun ownership rate, and you’re just asking for trouble.
They WANT trouble, in as many ways as possible. That will allow him to justify imposing Martial Law, and suspend elections.
He has a razor thin majority in Congress, with the 2016 midtetm election ahead (which is shaping up to be a bloodbath), and he can't afford to lose either chamber, which would give Dems control of investigative committees with subpoena and arrest powers.
He wants violence, and he will be instigating it in as many ways as possible.
That's if they let you live long enough to make it to trial, nevermind afterward. 😶
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This is precisely what the Founding Fathers intended it be used for.
This is going to go over great in a country that prides itself on unrestricted firearms for home and personal protection 🫣
Those folks will bend over the hardest
They would love nothing more than a few ice agents getting shot to justify an even harsher show of force in the future
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Any local administrator that signs in for this, is guilty of treason. This administration is guilty, conclusively, now of treason. Why isn't it being removed? What's all this about checks and balances? Seems like the people invoking the alien enemies acts have become, themselves alien enemies.
I wouldn't recommend it.
Do the Americans really want USA to be a fascist gestapo country?
How exactly do the methods of Trumps regime reflect a society that values freedom?
MAGA's society is one where white people rule and set the laws. Right now, the target is brown people but it won't stay that way for long. East Asians will be the next cause of issues with China.
No, white people are no safer than anyone else, they are just lower on the priority list. They'll get to us standard issue white folks eventually.
Only the wealthy will be safe from the government, and that does not include the mere rich. If you think you are safe because you have a net worth of a few million bucks, you are deluding yourself. You are just another poor rube to the truly wealthy, and when all the profit has been wrung out of the poor, working class, and middle class, theyll go after the merely rich.
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At this rate, we will just become the purge, every day. 🤦♂️
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