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Thats the ratcheting effect

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I would encourage everyone to watch the video of her speech. The title of this post is incredibly misleading. And takes points out of context.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So abandon economic justice and civil rights.

Is there anything left?

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

The color blue, instead of red.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Elissa Slotkin can fuck off.

Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency…

Oh, she can really fuck off.

Edit:

“I can’t do what she does because we live in a purple state, and I’m a pragmatist,” she concluded.

This is code for not rocking the boat.

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 35 points 3 days ago

The Democratic Party is so full of collaborationists. Just shows how democracy and capitalism are incompatible. The bourgeois class just buy the politicians.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

First part of article title is a bit misleading I think. She thinks "Kings" is a better term than oligarchy because it's more relatable. She has a plan to fight kings. She does seem to think wokeness is weak though.

Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) has urged her Democratic colleagues to stop attacking the “oligarchy” on Thursday, arguing that the word did not resonate with most Americans and should be replaced with “kings.”

Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) – argued that the Democratic Party needed to lose its “weak and woke” reputation and “fucking retake the flag,” adopting a “goddamn Alpha energy” inspired by Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell.

“She said Democrats should stop using the term ‘oligarchy,’ a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes ‘kings,'” wrote Wren, who reported that Slotkin was planning to deliver a series of speeches in the coming months about her plan.

[–] blaggle42@lemmy.today 16 points 3 days ago

Somehow this made it worse. “goddamn Alpha energy” - who are these people. All I want is for the dems to not be rich people faking concern for the poor.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

People recognize when they're being talked down to, this is a losing strategy.

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[–] Uranus_Hz@lemm.ee 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

She’s sorta right. ‘Oligarchy’ is a big college word that Joe Bumblefuck doesn’t understand.

Aristocrats is a good word, but again: “duh?”

Therefore Dems just need to start harping about “rich fucking parasites”

[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago

People are clued in on oligarchy even if they don’t quite know the exact definition. After Bernie and AOC started their tour, it was Wikipedia top 5 articles. Slotkin is just a right wing traitor.

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[–] GrassCat@lemmy.world 251 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (18 children)

Elissa Slotkin IS the oligarchy. She is the Hot Dog Princess. Her grandpa owned BallPark Franks—subsidiary of the Tyson Foods megacorp. Every time someone eats a hot dog, Elissa gets more passive income than most folks earn from a year’s labor.

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 67 points 4 days ago (1 children)

She sucks, I voted for Harper in the primaries but the Dems are full of neo-libs like her. It's hard to see that party go more liberal even with Sander's and AOC's help

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[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 62 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Unfortunately shes in the right party for this BS. This is what the Dems have been for decades. We need a new party, not a new democrat.

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[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 187 points 4 days ago (4 children)

"Not resonating with voters"

Bernie and AOC's "Fighting Oligarchy" campaign is pulling in more people to their rallies than attended Obama's in 08.

Don't peddle that horseshit you Liberal traitor.

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[–] mcv@lemm.ee 73 points 3 days ago

Way to advertise what side she's really on.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 54 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And this is why fascism is winning.

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yep. When the 'resistance' grand plans are to adopt the fascist framing (e.g. that 'woke is weak' and should be surrendered) what's the point in having an opposition party?

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 101 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (17 children)

No, she can fuck off.

The oligarchy is killing us, and spinning language won’t change that. Meanwhile, ‘woke’ just means ‘social empathy’, which is ironically the solution to many of the problems the oligarchy is causing (and they’re not shy about this – Musk recently said empathy is bad).

We need more ‘woke’, not less. And being butthurt that the fascists are using ‘woke’ as a slur against us is childish and easy to ignore if you’re not too simple to get it.

Fuck this. I’m woke and proud of it. We all should be.

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Dem Senator Says Party Needs to Stop Attacking ‘Oligarchy’ and Focus on Losing

FTFY

Let's get back to our controlled opposition roots.

The unfalsifiable orthodoxy. Moving to the far-right and appealing to moderate Republicans win elections. If a Democrat wins, it proves that this works, if a Democrat loses, they just hadn't moved far-right enough.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 163 points 4 days ago (16 children)

We don't need more "pro-israel centrists"

The reason Dem turnout in generals is depressed, is our choices are CIA war criminals like Slotking or a republican.

She is the problem, not the 99.9% who don't want an oligarchy

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 days ago

"Don't let perfect the enemy of good."

The "good":

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago

Of course. They don't want to fix things, they just want to be the ones getting the benefits.

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 41 points 3 days ago (3 children)
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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 68 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

So many people will say "this is a gross oversimplification, they do lots of progressive things" while ignoring the world around them.

The fact we had to invent a political term for them is enough to tell me that we need to abandon this fascist supporting party.

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[–] Trebuchet@lemm.ee 108 points 4 days ago (4 children)
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[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago

And this is why we need more decent folk around the country like AOC to run for any and all offices.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 64 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Her name is: Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI)

Just so you don't accidentally vote for her.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 34 points 3 days ago

I am sure this slide to the right will surely work.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Fighting Oligarchy resonates greatly. But yes, the dems have focused too much on the culture war in favour of participating in the class war against the working class.

That is definitely something they should put waaaay more focus on. Trump is the cry for help of much of the working class, if people would believe you actually fought FOR the working people in your country, the dems would be unstoppable.

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[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 79 points 4 days ago (22 children)

Maybe the democrats need to ditch pro-oligarchy anti-woke members 🤷‍♂️

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[–] anas@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Outsider opinion: There are two sides who haven’t voted for you, one side who says they’ll vote for you if you change, and another side who says they’ll never vote anything but red. There seems to be an obvious vote to go after.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 33 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The only reason the party has the woke reputation is that empty lip service is really all they had left. People like this need to get a fucking clue. If people want to vote for republicans, they will never ever ever get confused and accidentally vote for democrats just because you mirrored their policies from 12-20 years ago.

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[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 39 points 3 days ago

Ratchet effect at work

[–] triptrapper@lemmy.world 64 points 4 days ago

I can’t do what [AOC] does because we live in a purple state, and I’m a pragmatist

"It's pragmatic for me to avoid making my Republican donors upset." What an idiot.

[–] macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 4 days ago

Willfully or blindly ignorant, but the result is the same.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 55 points 4 days ago (14 children)

Man I figured this was paraphrased because I can't trust a headline nowadays even if it used quotes but nope. Used those exact terms in that way. Says to retake flag energy. Fuck that nationalist shit. Definately need to redefine patriotism around the constitution and civil rights but sure as shit not around the flag. The flag is a symbol of the ideals that should be respected not a thing itself to respect.

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

woke is what republicans use to attack whatever they dont like, if a democrat uses woke, they arnt really a DEMocrat, alot of them have a veneer of being dem or progressive but they often use buzzwords of right wingers to justify thier positions.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

THESE are the types of incumbents the DNC does not want primaried?! Holy hell.

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