I mean yeah, I agree with that.
You seem to have slipped from arguing that it was difficult and complicated to arguing that it’s bad
These are the same thing...
For one thing, it’s not illegal and I do rip my own media.
Soon as you share it over the Internet it is. You need a license from the IP holder to do that.
how is it possibly more difficult and complicated to have remote access ready to go than being “a DNS record away”?
- They're effectively the same.
- Plex forces you to use their way. It's more difficult because it's not the way most people would want to do it in a selfhost environment.
It does mix at least two sources (their unavoidable, rather intrusive free streaming TV stuff and your library), but it doesn’t demand that you set it up.
I mean yeah, it doesn't demand anything because it doesn't give you an option. lol
I don’t know, man, I’m not saying you shouldn’t prefer Jellyfin.
And I'm not saying that you should prefer Jellyfin. But to call Plex "easier" than jellyfin is verifiably an incorrect statement--which is what I've been saying since the beginning here. The way Plex forces you to do things isn't easier at all.
Virtualizing your *nix setup is the way to go if you're too weak to let go of Windows permanently (lol).
Windows is destructive and every time there's a major update it will eat the bootloader and remove any *nix entries. Using virtualization removes that problem at the cost of performance.
Okay, but… how is it confusing from the front end if what you’re doing is going through the same steps of creating an account? You punch in a login and password in both.
Because there's zero difference between the app.plex.tv interface spawned from plex server, and one without. There's zero indication that it's actually your server and your content because it fucking displays everything by default.
It's such an incredibly bad proprietary system...
But again, from the front-end that is transparent.
It's not. There's no server configuration options at all. There's nothing to indicate it's local content...
I can see objections to it working that way, you trade a (frankly super convenient) way to share content remotely and access content from outside your network
For 90% of the content people use Plex for, this is an illegal act. So I don't see the advantage to providing this option let alone making it easier to commit a felony... I've never needed to "share" my media library with anyone and even if this was something I wanted to do, it's a simple DNS record away from doing the same thing in Jellyfin. There's no reason to lock people into your login system because 10% of people would "find it easier." It's just such a bad argument.
IIRC he didn't even really wanna be President. So this is prolly a win/win for him in a lot of ways if him just stepping down is able to get Ukraine into NATO.
No way they're gonna give up half the mineral rights in Ukraine. It just plain won't happen.
Wait, isn’t Jellyfin the same way?
Jellyfin has a native web-ui, yes. But not a proprietary one, like Plex uses. When I installed a Plex server I had to go to plex.tv and setup a user account there to be able to log into my own damn server... Then they strongly encourage you to use https://app.plex.tv/ to manage your local server.
It's all unnecessarily confusing and difficult.
Is there no account management on Jellyfin?
Yes. Local accounts. Not some cloud based PAMd system.
You made me feel like I was crazy, so I just downloaded Plex Media Server and installed it. Ran it, and was immediately presented with this: https://i.xno.dev/mqWFZ.png
I was then immediately routed to app.plex.tv and see this: https://i.xno.dev/cLPfw.png
There's no option to not use a plex account. You must either use an existing account or sign up for one. You cannot use local users. Then it forces you to use the app.plex.tv so it can display content you don't even have, or have access to...
How in any possible way is any of this easier than Jellyfin?
EDIT: Oh, don't forget the sales pitch! https://i.xno.dev/79WBs.png
With every device having a slightly different UI, with some apps having issues if playing back natively and some needing transcoding, the experience is inconsistent and frankly doesn’t pass the “wife acceptance factor” test, or the “let your friends use it without needing to handhold them through regular troubleshooting for their particular device” test.
This is a configuration issue, then. Because I have no idea what you're talking about. The UI is exactly the same across devices, and profiles (which can be cloned) once setup, don't require any user intervention to do transcoding. You literally click a video and it works...
Not sure what you're doing over there, but you're making it harder than it has to be.
It depends on your phone.
- Non Samsung devices: https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html
- Samsung Devices: https://xdaforums.com/t/official-samsung-odin-v4-1-2-1-dc05e3ea-for-linux.4453423/
Depends on how you're viewing Jellyfin. I use Chromecast and Chromecast doesn't support embedded subtitles well with Jellyfin. So I usually just use ffmpeg to extract the subtitles to an srt file, and then they run fine;
pushd "\\nas\Media\Movies\"
fd -e mkv | each {|x| ffmpeg -i $x -map 0:s:0 $x.srt }
Temporarily maps my UNC network location to a usable drive, then using fd and an elvish each loop, iterate over all the mkv files, and use ffmpeg to extract the subtitles.
Ez-pz.
I mean, just like everything else there's an optimal setup. I have a NAS with an extensive media library and running Jellyfin on it was a terrible experience. The NAS simply isn't powerful enough to make Jellyfin usable.
I fixed that issue by running the server on my PC, and the libraries point to my NAS library locations. It's the perfect setup. I get access to my GPU for HD video transcoding, and an overpowered CPU with the advantage of not having to worry about storage.
I feel like it's the perfect setup for me.
The separate management of metadata does sound like a pain to me
It's really not, but I guess it depends on how you do it. You can even automate it.
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Can't say I agree.
*nix virtualizes way better than Windows. You'll get better overall performance by virtualizing *nix and using Windows on bare metal.