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[–] TON618@lemmy.world 175 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Leveraging people's property to trash their privacy and serve them ads is really a good way to get me to avoid an entire brand for everything.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 28 points 6 days ago (11 children)

I agree, but with TVs (or large displays" we're at the point where there are no good options. Commercial displays are over engineered for the home and lag in technology Vs home TVs. So they're not an option. Lg and Samsung are the display technology leaders, but their TVs are full of crap— so no. Monitors don't go large enough for the living room.

Guess I'm stuck with what I have.

[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Monitors are still bigger than TVs our parents had in our childhood, no way I'm buying such a surveillance machine just for a bigger screen.

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For real: I'm using a 38" ultra wide, and if you had told child me that a 38" monitor would be the smallest display in the house I'd have told you that you're full of shit.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This tech has been in TVs easily for the past ten years.

Did you know this stuff is in most modern cars, too? Fuck. EVERYTHING listens to you now.

I hate to use this phrase, but, back in my day, we used to call this SPYWARE and it was treated as a virus - it was highly unacceptable by people.

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[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

I still have and will continue to purchase TVs for as long as I can. Not smartTVs.

As a side note, I went to Best Buy and asked them about non-smartTVs. They literally said they had 2 models. A small, tiny TV and a larger TV which they did not have a model on the floor. They would have to bring it out or I would have to go the back.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 60 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So what im hearing is never buy an LG TV. Got it.

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I have an LG TV. Absolutely love it.

However, it’s not connected to the internet so it doesn’t do any of this shit. It’s just a really nice dumb TV that has the potential to spy on me if I ever gave it a chance to be smart, and I still get to take advantage of the various picture improvements that come from having the processing power of a smart TV.

Just need something else to do streaming if that’s what you want. Like an Apple TV, nVidia Shield, Roku, or game console. Some of those will also advertise to you, but I’ve had good experience with my Apple TV.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

I wouldnt be surprised if it randomly connects to unsecured/public wifi networks to still send the spy data if it can find any in its area.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 56 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Continue to never buy LG products again?

Gotcha. The advertising works, i guess...maybe not how they wanted to, though lol

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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 29 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Simple solution I use: Fuck television sets, get a computer monitor and basic speakers instead. A display should do only one thing and do it well.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 83 points 6 days ago (7 children)

I recently bought an LG TV. I didn't connect it to the Internet, I just use it with my Chromecast or Switch. Works great, no ads, no AI BS.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 63 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Coming soon (if not already): TVs with utility cellular connections or corpo network (like Amazon sidewalk) access that your neighbor may have not opted out of.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 55 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

I find it highly likely that TVs will soon cease to function without an internet connection, complete with some BS explanation about protecting your privacy or security.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I can't set my dryer to medium heat unless I do so with an app over the internet even though the controls exist to do it on the unit. I bought a window AC unit and the only remote control is an app - thankfully I was able to put that on a subnet with no internet gateway and it still works.

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Name them. Bosch does this with some functions too. I bought the model below and didn’t care about delayed start or whatever. I am not loading your app!

I swear we need to start some appliance hacking clubs or something to sidestep this crap.

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[–] obsidianfoxxy7870@lemmy.blahaj.zone 77 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If they ever make this a standard feature in all TVs and make it where I can't just disconnect it from the internet, I will be using old TVs for the rest of my life.

My TV is there to display a visual output. It does not and should not do anything else.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Luckily digital signboards will always be an option to replace TVs with if the situation becomes truly dire. The sorts of no-frills displays corporations buy to display whatever media they want in store.

Might not come with sound, but you can pick up a cheap sound bar and it will still be better than whatever cheap speakers commercial TVs try to cram in there.

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 21 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Never connect your tv to WiFi

Don’t buy connected anything

Just buy things that do the thing you want.

No consumer ever asked for a smart tv

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago

For the lower tech people, smart TVs are just OkAy. They allow an end user to use Netflix etc. It's the fucking cameras mics and sensors illls in my Tv that's fucked up

[–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If it makes a sound you don't recognise, use the gun.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 6 days ago (4 children)

This is why you block the camera with a little diorama that shows a single white male viewer...frantically masturbating.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Wait, TVs have cameras now? That sounds super creepy

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago

As if someone published a book featuring this very technology...in 1949.

It was noted with memes when the ToS of one such television suggested not having private conversations in front of or otherwise near the TV screen.

[–] pipes@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 days ago

And an array of microphones. But it's not like they have a clear view of their surroundings. Wait

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Close. This is why I mastubate frantically infront of the cameras. It satifies they kink for surveilance and my kink in exhibitionism.

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[–] brot@feddit.org 39 points 6 days ago

Let's be honest: I, as a customer, want to make informed buying decisions. I want to buy food that is tasty and maybe is healthy, but not based on some image that some marketing guys want to push. I want to choose the car which is best (and cheapest) for my purposes, and don't want to be hearded into buying something else. I want to choose the best insurance for me and not be mislead by some emotional ad showing me a happy family.

And I really do not want to be manipulated in an emotional vulnerable moment so that I buy something. That's shady as fuck

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 6 days ago

HOW EXCITING...

said no one ever.

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 43 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Can we please ban electronic advertising already? And billboards? Society would be better off without them.

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[–] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I got a Samsung TV a couple of years ago. I use it with a Roku. It's not on my network. I'll keep it until it stops working because I think eventually TVs will refuse to work without an Internet connection.

[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

At that point I'll just buy a monitor.

[–] Tungsten5@lemm.ee 40 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Holy shit there were so many ads in that article that I just stopped reading. It sucks LG is going down this route. They make really nice displays but now I dont ever want to buy an LG tv if its spying on me to serve me these ‘better’ ads. Fuck advertising. Its turned into a complete monster

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[–] slinkyjelly@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 47 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I'm about to live in a camper full of paper books. I hate everything tech has done in the last twenty years.

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[–] Blinsane@reddthat.com 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I just use a pi-hole to block my LG TV from connecting to any services I have not approved. So it can connect to YouTube but not lg.trackingservices.brainscanner.com. Never seen an ad on my TV.

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[–] Rin@lemm.ee 31 points 6 days ago (2 children)
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[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I’ll never connect a TV to the internet again.

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[–] eodur@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I was describing this to my partner and she thought i said "LGBT". Yes. The LGBTQ community created this technology and weaponized it. Next on Fox News.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Well yeah. Did you forget what LGBT stands for? LG BlueTooth. That's how they get you

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[–] Chessmasterrex@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I'd rather just not have a tv

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[–] filister@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Enshittification in progress. Sadly their OLED TVs are amazing, if not for the intrusive ads. It is really crap what all those companies are doing shoving ads our throats.

I am trying to block everything using ad blockers, DNS filtering, Pi hole, etc.

[–] expr@programming.dev 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I just... don't connect the TV to the internet. Never had an issue with anything like that.

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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You know back in the day they were like easily half a dozen custom Android ROMs for any given phone. I'm pretty sure that there's still a diversity of ROMs available.

Why is this not the case with televisions?

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[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

So we pay them to do this to us? I stopped putting tv's on the internet once I realized it offered me nothing useful. Firmware is about it and if that's the case I'll either usb it or put it on the internet for 5 min to do the update. Even then Samsung sucks so much with firmware the release notes for every single update are "bug fixes and improvements"... thanks Samsung.

If I am forced to put it online or it comes up with a way to phone home on its own, I am done buying those kinds of tv's, and I'm sure some other brand will offer one that doesn't, even if it isn't the best one to buy.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I wish there was a TV with absolutely no built in smart features and a slot in the back for a compute module (like a RP CM5).

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 13 points 5 days ago

If you want a serious mind fuck read "stand On Zanzibar" a science fiction novel from 1969.

One of the things that the writer predicted was Mr. & Mrs. Everywhere, a gimmick where your TV would insert your family into advertisements.

The novel is full of other, equally accurate predictions...

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