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I don't like smartphones. I use a dumbphone.

But this is a wonderful initiative.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I wish they could implement the parts of the Pixel phones that allow GrapheneOS to be used.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 2 points 14 minutes ago

I mean, you could use CalyxOS

It dosent have such things as 2 factor pin auth for fingerprint, but its the closest to Graphene

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What parts are these? I've always wondered what this was about, why the pixel was the only phone that could support GrapheneOS

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The last I looked was that the Pixel was the only phone that allowed you to load a custom rom and relock the bootloader. Other phones kept the bootloader unlocked once it was modded.

So, graphene could be put on those phones if the devs wanted to do it, but it would be less secure since the bootloader would remain unlocked.

Also, supporting a small line a phones is probably infinitely easier than a range, of devices, but it would be nice to have another option. Especially now that the Fairphone pice is reasonable.

[–] Prism@feddit.org 3 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

The Fairphone can be locked after flashing a custom rom. /e/-OS is officially supported. You can even buy it from them with /e/ preinstalled. iode-OS also works. I don't know about Graphene OS, but tbh, I don't see the benefit of Graphene OS for the average user. /e/ has built in privacy features, is google-free and runs MicroG as alternative to Google Play Services. Most apps run fine. You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.

I've been using Fairphone 5 with /e/-OS for over a year and love it.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 minutes ago

/e/ has built in privacy features

/e/ uses a for profit 3rd party for unencrypted backups. That alone should be a big red flag.

is google-free and runs MicroG

So it runs google. MicroG just limits what data is sent to google.

You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.

You can do the same with aurora store. That's available on just about every phone.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 15 minutes ago)

I like it a lot but I need two physical SIM slots so it doesn't work for me, unfortunately. But great idea and love the price drop

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Unfortunately it's not available in the US though.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (3 children)
[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I used a Jolla when it was new. It was pretty decent, and in fact had many innovations. Apple brought gestures to their OS several years after. It was one of the first implementations of a phone UI implement on Wayland, and one of the first serious Linux non-Android phones. Might still be.

Unfortunately, being a pioneer does not always help. Application developers didn't get interested in it enough so it never really got any apps.

[–] peetabix@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Looks ok but I dont like the subscription model for os updates. First 12 months is free, then you have to pay.

But I guess they have to make their money somehow.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I looked at it, but it looks really outdated phone. Would be interesting if we live in a 2015, but not today.

[–] sykaster 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

In what way does it look outdated?

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Look at its specs. Processor and screen and so on.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 3 points 22 minutes ago (1 children)

People need to stop wanking over specs for a device that'll be used 99% of the time to send text messages and watch YouTube videos

What do you need on a phone that takes 8gb+ ram?

[–] quack@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 minutes ago

I need my pocket sized spaceship computer for shitposting and occasionally checking my email

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 21 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Bring back the headphone jack

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

We can but hope. I have a dongle that plugs into my charging point to make it a headphone jack, but it's not the same

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I recently went through that dongle buying experience. Having to get the correct DAC and amplifier chipset so the sound won't be too low is annoying. For the record I ended up going with one that has the CX31993 DAC and the MAX97220 amplifier, it doesn't have a real name so I'll just give a link: https://aliexpress.com/item/1005008755907868.html. It is a bit louder than my first impulsive buy, but I haven't tested the microphone yet.

[–] oascany@lemmy.world 25 points 5 hours ago

This would've been my new phone if it had a headphone jack.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 43 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I hope Graphene eventually shifts to support the fairphones. Doubtful, but it'd be perfect

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

No, it's the other way around. Fairphone needs to implement the things Graphene requires.

https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

[–] AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

If we could get a Fairphone with GrapheneOS, that would be the perfect phone for me. Repairability & the most secure and private Android. Sign me up!

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 7 points 5 hours ago

Hows their secure boot?

I would totally be interested if they had solid Linux support, such as postmarketOS or mobian. Those systems continue to get updates long after most Android devices stop supplying updates, so it would fit really well with a repairable phone. It shouldn't be the default, but it would be awesome if they helped the Linux phone community make it the best supported hardware for the various Linux phone projects.

According to the postmarketOS wiki, audio is completely broken, so you have to use Bluetooth. That kind of sucks.

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