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The Fairphone 5 price has been dropped to €499. The phone is designed to be the most advanced environmentally friendly smartphone. (shop.fairphone.com)
submitted 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) by dwazou@jlai.lu to c/technology@lemmy.world
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I don't like smartphones. I use a dumbphone.

But this is a wonderful initiative.

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[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The last I looked was that the Pixel was the only phone that allowed you to load a custom rom and relock the bootloader. Other phones kept the bootloader unlocked once it was modded.

So, graphene could be put on those phones if the devs wanted to do it, but it would be less secure since the bootloader would remain unlocked.

Also, supporting a small line a phones is probably infinitely easier than a range, of devices, but it would be nice to have another option. Especially now that the Fairphone pice is reasonable.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 hours ago

The last I looked was that the Pixel was the only phone that allowed you to load a custom rom and relock the bootloader. Other phones kept the bootloader unlocked once it was modded.

That is not the case. SHIFTmq, Motorola and Fairphone allow the bootloader to be relocked with a custom rom. There are many requirements the Fairphone lacks for GrapheneOS, but relocking the bootloader is not one of them.

[–] Prism@feddit.org 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The Fairphone can be locked after flashing a custom rom. /e/-OS is officially supported. You can even buy it from them with /e/ preinstalled. iode-OS also works. I don't know about Graphene OS, but tbh, I don't see the benefit of Graphene OS for the average user. /e/ has built in privacy features, is google-free and runs MicroG as alternative to Google Play Services. Most apps run fine. You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.

I've been using Fairphone 5 with /e/-OS for over a year and love it.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

e-OS is said to have the worst security of pretty much all Android distributions. Dunno if this is a fact, but apparently the upgrade schedules are not great.

[–] Prism@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago

They are usually a month behind

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

/e/ has built in privacy features

/e/ uses a for profit 3rd party for unencrypted backups. That alone should be a big red flag.

is google-free and runs MicroG

So it runs google. MicroG just limits what data is sent to google.

You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.

You can do the same with aurora store. That's available on just about every phone.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago

You can do the same with aurora store. That's available on just about every phone.

not if the app attempts to verify its license through the play store. you need microg for that, or patch it

[–] Prism@feddit.org -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It a perfectly usable Android for the average user. Everything works out of the boy. If it is not for you, fine. Buy a Pixel.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

for the average user.

So we are talking about an average user, who

  • fully understands the appeal of a degoogled Phone
  • Willingly spends extra money for a fairphone
  • is able to migrate away from google services to /e/'s services
  • Is willing and able to troubleshoot any problems that MicroG has
  • is willing to fix not working banking apps
  • but somehow can't use a simple web installer from Calyx

Tell me, is this average user in the room with us right now?

Everything works out of the boy.

So does (and does not) with Calix or Graphene

Buy a Pixel.

I think you don't get what I'm talking about.

-It takes a base level of understanding why you would buy a Fairphone (or any degoogled phone)

  • it takes a base level of understanding phones to be able to use a degoogled one
  • If you already have that knowledge, you might as well just take an extra 5 minutes and use the web installer for calyx since it is literally the same AND has less vendor lockin than /e/

Edit: You want an average user friendly ROM? Just use Lineage for gods sake.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Well even graphene os still runs a version of Android. So there is still some goggle code in that. But ripping oit google play, amd various goggle services means goggle doesn't track you with those. Yeah if you still ise gmail and log into toutube every day they will.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 hours ago

there is still some goggle code in that.

But that code is open source, and it has been verified that it dosent track you.