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This came up in my health care forum.

Right now, you can legally detain someone medically when they are a danger to themselves or others for up to 72hrs. The details vary by state, but this is how we lock down individuals trying to suicide or someone mentally off the rails making threats of violence.

This variation on that law would also make opposition to Trump qualify.

Civil commitment can follow as with individuals who have profound mental illness and are not safe to be out in the world.

This is the loudest scream that democracy is dead short of hauling people out into the street and shooting them.

It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.

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[–] PeripheralGhost@lemmy.world 2 points 56 minutes ago

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) (noun) - An irrational and unwavering devotion to Donald Trump, characterized by blind loyalty, the dismissal of any criticism as fake news or conspiracy, and an inability to acknowledge his flaws or contradictions.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

We need one to counter and call it the Koolaid Cooperation Clause

[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 7 points 8 hours ago

In Soviet America the crackpots will hospitalize you.

[–] Captain_J@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.

Free speech is dead. Democracy is dead. And now the individuals who criticize Trump can be detained in a mental hospital.

Yep, we're back to the 1930s folks

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 27 points 14 hours ago

Americans are fucked. Political disagreement to be classified as a mental disorder? Y'all skipped the Hungary and Russia steps, and went straight to NK.

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 13 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I will scream it from the roof tops that he is incompetent and my dislike for him. I’m not scared.

[–] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The government has artillery.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 3 points 7 hours ago

Don't threaten me with a good time

[–] badelf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You're not scared because your great grandmother wasn't thrown out a 4th floor window by Nazis. You really don't understand a dictatorship, do you?

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

My grandmother was a German citizen. My blood runs deep and I fully understand how you put these people in their place.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

To be clear, screaming on rooftops didn't put the nazis in their place, communists with guns did.

[–] mouldylemon@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Is this a call to arms against the USsA?

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

It is an observation of historical facts, I am not prescribing any particular action.

Running in the woods and trying to wage a protracted people's war against the local police didn't put the nazis in their place either, so who exactly would I be calling to arms?

[–] fff45667@lemm.ee 11 points 14 hours ago

This process is already able to be abused to swat people, and the conditions are horrible for the people being held. I've seen it as a MH worker. It's not a hospital, it's a jail. There is no treatment, only observation in cells. It's deeply traumatizing and corrupt. Coercion to get people to sign into voluntary programs ($) in order to be released, or they extend their hold. The whole thing is a travesty.

[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Just like in Soviet Union under Stalin.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

American asylums weren't exactly shining beacons of human rights during that period either. JFK's sister had her frontal lobe scraped until she could no longer repeat the lyrics of a song because she said problematic things as a woman.

[–] NimdaQA@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

Not really, abuse of the mental asylums like this mostly happened after Stalin’s death. Under Stalin, you were simply thrown into the Gulag system.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago

Awww, they're feeling the pressure huh?

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Psychiatric hospitals are also allowed to lie to you. You can go in voluntarily, and be upgraded to “involuntary” with no recourse.

Mental health techs will lie - cause problems? Guess what, your notes now say that you are “paranoid” and “hear voices.” You’re “paranoid” because a tech beat the shit out of you two hours ago - you don’t hear voices, but you are “crazy” so obviously lying.

Check what rights institutionalized people have in your state. I can tell you where I live, there are none.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

Was a mental health tech at a psych hospital. Ditto this, when it's the nurse's word against yours and the Ombudsman is already overworked and overwhelmed, you're cooked.

I tried to go to bat for my patients so often, but once the nurses and the aides burn out, they stop doing the job because they care and start doing the job because it's a job. I had nurses who told me to overchart patients so their insurance would pay more and they'd stay longer. Shady, shady shit.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 20 hours ago

And keep in mind that this is the state of things prior to our current regime that runs on cruelty.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 22 points 1 day ago

And here I thought it was Roadkill F. Kennedy that was gonna send me to a concentration camp for taking antidepressants. Welp I guess it's the nuthouse for me instead. At least until being mentally ill at all gets you sent to the "rehabilitation farms."

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