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Opinionated summary:

  • Despite Republican assurances, Trump called the CHIPS Act “horrible” and pushed for its scrapping, creating chaos for an industry already struggling with uncertainty.
  • The Trump administration has already sabotaged the program by laying off key staff and considering changes to the projects, showing its disdain for U.S. industrial growth.
  • Industry leaders, who have already committed billions to U.S. chip production, are now left in limbo, thanks to Trump’s shortsighted, destructive rhetoric.
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[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 153 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He hates it because Biden is supposed to be the worst president in the history of ever and Biden signed the CHIPS act so therefore it must be bad because Biden is bad. It's not more complicated than that.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 81 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

He hates it because Biden is supposed to be the worst president in the history of ever and Biden signed the CHIPS act so therefore it must be bad because Biden is bad. It’s not more complicated than that.

I'll go a little bit further than that, because this mindset started long before Trump came to power.

Mitch McConnell has been championing this mindset for decades. Anything, anything that Democrats are in favor of, Republicans must be against at all costs. How many times have we seen McConnell lead a charge for Republicans to suddenly be about-face on one of their own policies because it started getting Democrat support? The man once filibustered his own bill because it got Democrat support.

Trump is just the manifestation of that mindset brought to its logical extremes. It was always going to end up here. At worst, Trump just sped the process up. But this is where we are now. Any Democrat initiatives are bad by default must be dismantled solely on the basis that a Democrat supported it in the first place.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago

You're absolutely correct, and it's important to point this out because people need to understand that Trump is not behaving in ways that are unusual for Republicans. He's just an extreme manifestation of the mindset they all share.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 13 points 1 week ago

My favorite story from the Obamacare debacle:

The exchanges were meant for people without an employer who has health coverage to get that coverage on their own. Members of Congress and their staff are employees of the federal government, which obviously provides health insurance. They normally wouldn't have access to the exchanges.

Enter Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, who figures Democrats are setting up an awful system on purpose that they would never subject themselves to because they Hate America(tm). Thinking he'll call their bluff, he introduces an amendment to specifically opt Congress into the exchanges.

Except it's not a bluff, and Democrats think that's a pretty great idea.

After the ACA gets passed, Republicans run against their own amendment, twisting the facts around to claim Congress opted themselves out of Obamacare.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You might be on to something there

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

We saw trump do the same thing to legislation signed into law by Obama. trump is just a petty man child.

[–] Axxys@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

He hates the Canadian milk tariffs but HE SIGNED THEM INTO EXISTENCE on his first term. (Also they've never been used)

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 85 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought they wanted to on-shore industry to the US.

I'm starting to think Trump is being disloyal to Putin by moonlighting for Xi.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 25 points 1 week ago

from the article, it sounds like he is... It's carrot/stick.. Oh you already introduced a carrot when I was out of office... but, I wanted to use sticks, Kill the carrot, more stick!

(tarrifs being the stick).

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Has he ever given any indication that he knows what the CHIPS Act is? Because I'm 99% sure he's confusing it with CHIP Children's Health Insurance Program which iirc is part of social security and we know he's aiming to get rid of that.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My guess is that he just hates Erik Estrada for some unknowable reason.

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago

Better hair obviously

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To be fair, don't a lot of people? I never got the hate, but I've run into plenty of people throughout my life who don't care for him. I found his turn in the Fallout TV series to be a pleasant surprise.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Idk, I think the majority of people have no clue who he is. I've never even seen CHiPS before, I just know he was in it.

[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think all the handlers who might explain things to him are probably gone.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd be shocked if they even bothered to hire any this time around lol

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"Mr President, you're the president. You don't need other people telling you what to do, your own ideas are perfect. By the way, here's The Hungry Hungry Liberal, A Project 2025 Picturebook for you to read while waiting for Biden to leave."

[–] DonJefe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

That is the sad state of affairs at the white house right now

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

You know, I wouldn't be surprised.

[–] Anarch157a@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If he scraps the CHIPs act, Intel will be bankrupt before the end of his term. Even worse, it could be bought by a private (in)equity fund.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Even worse, it could be bought by a private (in)equity fund.

Oh, so that's why he wants to do it!

[–] zourn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not going to be great for Samsung either. They already invested a bunch of money to bring more industry to the states on the back of $45 billion in CHIPS act subsidies.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago

And Samsung is one of the 3 biggest corpos that control South Korea. We are fucking over the owners of our closest allies.

With loans that intel itself is ultimately responsible for.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago

He’s just upset because he never got to guest star on CHIPS.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 week ago

There is already enough data for level-headed people to notice that Trump is acting against the interests of his country.

The fact we have to rely on lifelong grifters to notice is the really terrifying part.

[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s just another article where I’m not sure if Trump is too stupid to know what he’s doing or if he’s manipulating the market so his rich buddies can cash in on something

[–] caroline@r.nf 1 points 1 week ago

He's ensuring the US will not be able to manufacture the weapons of the future.

[–] Haess@lemmynsfw.com 25 points 1 week ago

No one has ever accused him of being intelligent.

[–] devnev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I have to assume he sees any government spending as a problem, with no concept of a government trying to financially support or stimulate the economy.

Edit: except for when it's his own or his buddy's grift, then it's fine

Unless the government is spending to him

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

No, it's just because Biden did it

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know Trump is the biggest moron ever to hold the office but this is stupid.

While I'm not a fan of how some of Congress bought stocks before the CHIPS act was passed, the idea of building new in-countty chip manufacturing is one of the smartest things I can give credit to Biden passing. To the point I have to wonder why no one before him pushed for it.

Is it the greatest bill ever made? We don't even know how successful it will be, building chip fab sites is expensive and time consuming. I don't think any of them are up yet.

But this would do nothing but kill the jobs of not just the construction, chip making and programming, but also the local areas affected by the workers of this new location.

I know his whole "Make America great again" thing has always been a lie, I've been having more than room temperature in Michigan IQ points since 2015. But I don't get how this makes any sense. To the point if Trump did it in 2016, I'd question why someone would scrap it unless they found major holes in budgeting or the bill was hyper exact for certain things that are just bad writing for laws.

Genuinely, I don't know why he's doing this. (I know why, he's trying to remove the US as a player of international interests).

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Especially when you consider that we're on the precipice of an AI and ARM revolution, which is kicking off a whole new race in chip design and demand.

As the saying goes, when a gold rush hits, be the guy selling shovels.

Yet trump is here during the gold rush taking a loss on the shovels we have in order to buy the mineral rights for the air.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Ha, the leopards are eating the biggest faces of them all. The tech industry that played no small part in getting him elected LMAO

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Get ready for the CHIPS II Act which is just CHIPS but signed by El Narcississto, instead of Joe Biden. The world will weep and cry in thanks for the new signature.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

Yet subsidies for oil and gas will never be touched.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What a massive fucking idiot this man and the Republicans are.

All the talk about America first manufacturing in the US and he pulls this bullshit because his fragile fee fees are hurt because Biden, Democrats, and progressives did that.

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

More than that, it was bipartisan with Republican contribution

Yup. Just goes to show partisan, Snowflakey, and stupid they are.

[–] CosmoKramer@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 week ago

And I'm sure those Republicans who voted for it then will bash it now saying their hands were forced.

[–] kpes4@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't this kinda a war declaration on his own country? I mean the production and access to chips today and future to uni- and multipolar power is like nuclear technology and bomb of the 20th century...

It's like THE race for power / safety in modern standards xD this would mean trump could be convicted in the casuality chain that he really is a foreign agent in front of the justice system(s)

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago

Our Supreme Court ruled that Trump is above the law, so no, our legal system will never hold him accountable

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 10 points 1 week ago

I would say that he only calls it horrible because he didn't do it. Them I remembered that he's also been calling his own stupid shit horrible lately.

Looooooooooool.

I’m just… I can’t even. They got their boy. This what he do.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah the orange bozo is going to fuck up so many companies already struggling just to stay in business. Puff all of them will go in just a few months and then what? Oops sorry?

Fuck that! I want to see this bozo in jail for the rest of his fucking miserable life. He's already caused many of my fellow co workers to be laid off and I'm not in gob work. This is science and engineering work. This is stuff that generates work packages for machine shops, welders, inspectors, painters, skilled assembly men and women. I can't believe that such technology generation is just going puff because of a late night show joke's pun. I can imagine that if I'm ticked off there must be thousands of peoples who are way much more than ticked off here in the US. I can only guess at the level of love for this man in 90% of the planet. Imagine not being able to fly anywhere because you're simply an asshole. Forever stuck between airport and hotel room afraid to venture out anywhere else.

[–] Dimmer@leminal.space 1 points 1 week ago

Trump just needs his name on the bill. This is a powerful industry, just knees down and offer the money and loyalty, drama will pass on this.