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Stolen from @vmstan

More analysis from @wiredfire:

It’s nothing to do with [difficulties in using multiple platforms]. It’s to do with the massive backlash they got on Fedi for their CEO being all Trumpy and somewhat horrible right wing. So they’ve run away because they were made to feel unwelcome on account of us not letting their BS fly.

Original screenshot is of the bio of https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy and wasn’t a post (that confused me for a sec).

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[–] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 13 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
[–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 hour ago

fuck proton. finally started moving to it from gmail like a month ago. then the ceo thing happened, now this. good thing i only changed email to a few places so i can immediately steer away...

[–] ReadyUser31@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)
[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 1 points 13 minutes ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

I found this site useful. The list of alternatives is very large.

From my looking around at other info and advice, I'd say that Posteo is the best one if you don't have custom domains; and that mailbox.org or possibly Tuta mail is best if do need a custom domain. Tuta is probably best if you need it to be free.

Another solid option not on that list is fastmail.fm (which is Australian).

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 32 minutes ago

gmail

(this is a joke dont hunt me down pls)

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago

Proton is going boots up.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 39 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

You know I was like this close to getting proton VPN before this whole thing started. I've been researching for like 6 months to decide which one I was going to switch to. They were on the short list. Bullet dodged.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 23 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yeah, located in Sweden, country known for the Pirates Bay scandal that may also soon introduce a law requiring apps to have backdoors to access user's data. Great choice.

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 28 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You owe it to yourself to research past the platitudes. Then you would know that they already got raided and the police left empty handed because there was nothing to find.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sweden is also at this moment preparing to pass legislation that will require backdoors into encrypted services.

[–] Krukenberg@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The government is preparing legislation, Parliament has yet to decide on it.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Looking at other Western countries and their history of privacy invading surveillance laws, how likely do you think it is that Sweden won't pass it? Are you willing to bet your own money that they won't?

[–] Krukenberg@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I don't hade to look to other countries, Swedens track record for enacting this kind of legislation is quite bad. But the process is still transparent and even if new legislation pass it won't come into effect immediately. So taking actions at this stage is premature imo.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

Yes? It's a pretty small bet.

[–] Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

I just had signed up to de-Google as it looked like a good suite of drive/mail/vpn but I've just deleted the account citing this ass-hattery as the reason.

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[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

The ONLY reason I have Proton email, is because my bank thinks it's the only secure email in the world...

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 19 points 16 hours ago

I get tired of being so right all of the time

[–] Ninmi@sopuli.xyz 60 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

You'd think Fedi would be a good place to be active on from a privacy-conscious user-base perspective, but I think this is the second time they leave Fedi? Either way, I guess being on Reddit allows them to moderate all the naysayers away.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I made this basic comment about the CEO saying something pro-Trump and my comment got removed by a mod of /r/degoogle on the grounds that it wasn't factual.

Pretty infuriating.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 1 points 10 minutes ago

/r/degoogle is total bullshit. That sub routinely and consistently shits on any non-google suggestion, for all sorts of bogus reasons. It's like the sub exists to trick people into thinking google is impossible to avoid, rather than just supporting steps away from google.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 32 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

There are a lot of advantages to the fediverse, but privacy really isn’t one of them.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago

Nobody thinks it is, but privacy-interested peope are more likely to congregate on an open and decentralized playform not controlled by the privacy-invading corpo megaghouls

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Can't have privacy for your speech if you don't have the freedom to speak in the first place.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Maybr not exactly privacy, but as long as your instance admins doesn't leak you IP, you have much more privacy than on Reddit. There are no algorithms trying to show you relevent ads, because your account isn't tied to your identity (unless your instance admin is evil).

Also, most Lemmy instances allows Tor. Yay for anonymity.

[–] EngineerGaming 9 points 13 hours ago

For me, the main advantage of the model is "you cannot conveniently observe everyone's activity from one place".

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