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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 41 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I understand the joke but fun fact: WWII planes in fact couldn't fly that far(the obvious shorter route) which is one of the reasons the attack was able to succeed, no body expected it despite the numerous warnings they had because it seemed impossible but that is simply because the aircraft carrier was such a new technology that nobody knew how instrumental they would be in modern warfare.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 32 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

So now you expect me to believe that they had flying aircraft carriers? How would that even work?

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago

Disney has some movies for you to watch

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 points 4 weeks ago

But Japan had a flying battleship. With a superweapon on the front.

[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 weeks ago

Hardcore History has a great series on the Pacific Theatre of WWII called Supernova in the East. It goes into the learning curve of aircraft carriers by Japan and the US. There was actually a fair amount of luck involved by the US shortly after Pearl Harbor that diminished Japan's air capabilities for the rest of the war.

The way it was always presented to me in school is that the US victory was inevitable. This podcast series gives a much less biased view.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure they were well aware of it, and just let it happen to boost support for the US entering the war.

[–] nicgentile@lemmy.world 35 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Dang. Had no clue Japanese planes couldn't fly over land.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

Well duh, why else were we island hopping?

[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

They were seaplanes, dummy.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I do believe our maps have influenced people's ideas quite a lot and maybe even led some people towards flat eartherism. I have a friend who believes Trump wants Greenland because of this very projection and it's absurd overexaggeration.

Not to mention, and mildly relevant to OP, it also obscures the comically large and absolutely real size of the Pacific Ocean:

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Point nemo. If ur boat is there then the closest person to u is in the iss.

[–] groet@infosec.pub 3 points 4 weeks ago

That is true for a lot of places though. The ISS is only ~400 kilometres from the earth. Unless you are on a shipping lane (or close to a shore), most places on the ocean will be more than 400km from other people. Also many places in the sahara, Atacama, Gobi desert, Siberia, Canada, Alaska, Greenland ...

[–] pm_me_your_thoughts@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

finally a map only with New Zealand

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Isn't this rotated also? Instead of N/S being at the top/bottom, this looks to be rotated counter-clockwise 45°.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 19 points 4 weeks ago

New headline, "Flat Earther Has Concerns".

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

What an idiot. Planes can fly over land - they just had to fly over the US and Eurasia to cut the distance.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

what if they accidentally hit a tree? flying over the ocean is safer

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 8 points 4 weeks ago

It was during a war. You have to take risks to win

[–] GrabtharsHammer@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago
[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

lmao, but it makes sense if one assumes the earth is also flat 😄

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Flight times are still a point of discussion with flat earth. On their model, the distances between South America, Africa and Australia are huge and doesn't match up with the flight times posted by airlines so naturally all those airlines are conspiring they say.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)
[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 11 points 4 weeks ago

huge if true

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Obama did Pearl Harbor, WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

[–] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it even a coincidence that he was born in Hawaii?

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 3 points 4 weeks ago

I heard he was really from Agrabah

[–] superkret@feddit.org 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They couldn't have flown the distance from Japan over the pacific, either.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 2 points 4 weeks ago

yeah the OP is actually a shorter distance

[–] Isa@feddit.org 6 points 4 weeks ago

I am not fearless. What I fear most is … stupidity!