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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 130 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

He’s about to raise taxes on ~350k millionaires, while increasing wages and lowering the cost of groceries and rent. It’s everything Trump promised in his campaign, but he’s doing it the exact opposite way.

When it works, Trump is gonna look like a dick, and the nation will see that democratic socialism will get them what they were promised.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world -1 points 8 hours ago

Yeah but he's doing it for those NYC liberal elites, so improving their way of life is a bad thing you see.

[–] Xande@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

So, he's planning to decrease the value of Trumps places... Dangerous moves... I still wait for the first US politicians and judges that work against the Forth Reich to causually fall from windows.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Trump is already deeply unpopular in NYC, so it’s not likely to change anything on the national stage. New Yorkers have been seeing Trump’s BS on parade for decades now. It won’t change New York’s opinion of Trump.

Nationally, it might. But that’s only if the media actually runs with it; The big news orgs are all in bed with the established politicians, so they’ll likely be smearing him left and right to avoid having it turn into a national shift.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

the nation will see that democratic socialism will get them what they were promised.

What's that old saying like "none are so blind as those who will not see"? I feel like people are so emotionally invested in "socialism bad, democrats bad" that it's going to be hard for them to accept contradicting that.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes. We are talking about dumbasses that like the ACA, but hate "Obamacare" - which apparently has "death panels"....

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 hours ago

The insurance companies are the death panels.

[–] hraegsvelmir@ani.social 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That's definitely true for many Republicans, but I think a successful term as mayor for Zohran has potential to really change things for the Democrats. If, after hearing from establishment Democrats for decades that the only way we can change things is so incrementally, not only can we not make progress, but we actually have to accept going backwards pretty often, you have a mayor who delivers some fairly sweeping changes, it could open the eyes of many Democrat voters to the lies that they've been fed by party leadership to excuse themselves for sitting on their hands while things fall apart around them.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 4 points 19 hours ago

I think there's some truth to this. Specifically, a lot of people are sort of reflexively conservative. That is, they don't like change. If zohran gets free bus fare in, a lot of people who fight it now will fight to keep it.

I think some famous conservative said something once about how they can't let social programs get in because people like them too much.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It won’t work because, like every socialist system everywhere, capitalists will seek to undermine and interfere.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least someone else on your home instance noticed and admits it.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

Shit what's wrong with .world?

I just set up my new account there because mine is about to die. Do I need to go elsewhere?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 19 hours ago

They're not generally fans of communism, plus the other replies. Your preferences may vary.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The .world admins are… Not great. There have been several instances of them cozying up to users with unfortunate viewpoints. It’s not as bad as Reddit, but it’s certainly not great either.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

I have had multiple comments removed for “misinformation” because I outlined historical context that goes against anti-communist rhetoric. All factual stuff that anyone could google, but it makes communism look not terrible so the mods of .world removed it.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Any recommendations? Is your instance decent?

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

DBzero is where I would sign up if I weren't best suited to blahaj zone. Highly recommend

(I'm not the person you asked though)

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 2 points 18 hours ago

I'm not best suited to blahaj but the way you put it and how I feel about it make me think you're right. Thanks!

[–] faultyproboscus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The person I asked are the instance? Because the instance seems okay but I haven't really looked

[–] faultyproboscus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

The person. I already had them blocked.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 19 hours ago

You may also check instances that are de/federated as well, and may want to join several instances just to get a different mix, even if de/federation is similar. You can use the same username on them, assuming it's not already in use.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago

If he does. He hasn't done anything yet.

[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

he can propose a tax raise but it still has to get through state legislators and the governor. i dunno about the rent and grocery stores. I'm all for this guy but he's going to need everyone's help making any real changes. i really hope we see it happen!

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Rent-stabilized apartments already exist in NYC. They are subject to regulations, so prices can be bureaucratically frozen.

He has proposed city-owned grocery stores, that would save money on rent and property taxes, forcing competitive pricing on groceries in NYC, and reducing the insane inflation rates we see. During the bird flu, eggs hit $13/dozen, for example.

He’s also looking to increase the city minimum wage to $30/hr, and make the city bus free for residents.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

New York City has its own income taxes.

[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

that aren't set by the mayors office, but the state

edit: so many confidently incorrect people responding to me, bug off. bunch of argue bros trying to google their way to being right. Albany and the governor are involved in what he wants to do, the governor has already addressed this, he has already addressed this, idk what to tell you loons. blocking any more reply guys.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

That’s incorrect. The New York City Council sets the NYC property and income tax rates. Taxes are collected by NYS.

https://www.nyc.gov/site/taxcommission/about/about-the-nyc-tax-commission.page

[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 4 points 20 hours ago

i don't think your link says what you are pushing but i'm done arguing about it, have a nice day!

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The existing one is set by the state, but I'm not aware of anything precluding the city for introducing its own. They wouldn't be set by the mayor's office as mayors don't actually make laws, but I don't see how this is a state matter. Certainly none of the coverage about it has said it's ultimately up to Hochul.

[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

idk what to tell you except that this is very easy to verify. NYC city taxes are set by the state and the governor has to approve them as currently set up. Hochul the democratic governor has already said she isn't interested in this plan so it's a fight. I'm not interested in discussing it with you any further have a nice day.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 21 hours ago

Yes, but you're talking about the current taxes. Is there a law saying they can't institute additional taxes themselves? Because the proposed tax is an entirely separate thing and unless that's precluded by law the existing tax doesn't really matter. Adams had to go through the state because he wanted to reduce the existing tax.