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People always forget that Star Trek is post-apocalytic science fiction.
Aliens, holodecks, and regularly breaking the laws of physics? Kid stuff.
Humans actually learning from their mistakes? Now that’s what takes a leap of imagination.
It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.
Because look at how many times the world ended and people went on buying and selling.
Bubonic Plague? People selling and buying. Locked in a concentration camp? Someone knows how to get you what you want.
Buying and selling is not capitalism. You are conflating capitalism and trade.
Capitalism is when private capital owns the means of production.
Trade is when people buy and sell things to each other.
On the contrary. It's a quote mocking the extent to which the exploitative system of capitalism has entrenched itself in the minds of people, to such a degree that they cannot even consider that a better alternative might exist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalist_Realism
By the way, buying and selling things isn't generally considered to be capitalism. Capitalism is about controlling private property for the generation of profit.
Markets aren't capitalism
Blahblahblah the west sucks. Anyways
I mean, economic theory does generally suck though. Regardless of school, who wants to look at graphs about money numbers all day, everyday, and get underpaid for that shit?
That's because it's in the subgenre of "post-post-apocalyptic." Think Nausicaä, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Planet of the Apes. The apocalypse happened so long ago that it's more of a history lesson than an ongoing concern
If you want to live in a fictional universe, you should mention when.
I want to live in the world of Land of the Lustrous, but waaay in the past before human civilization collapsed
Like how it's writers were channeling the ideology (not practice, mind you) of post war USA.
In our defense, it is VERY post-apocalyptic, like 400 years or so depending on where you tag in.
It's not like the bombs dropped yesterday and all of a sudden they have holodecks and microwaves that make food out of raw materials and transporters and warp drives.
If you consider our technology in 1625 versus today, Having that kind of tech in 2425 seems perfectly reasonable.
According to Star Trek canon, all the apocalyptic stuff lasts for about a century, tops. The Eugenics Wars started in 1992 (pre-retcon to make them happen further in the future), the nuclear exchange happened no later than 2053, the Vulcans showed up in 2063, and Earth society appeared to be completely recovered by 2121 (the time of Enterprise).
Then let's hope they get dropped off at the right time.
Fun fact: according to Star Trek canon, we're about to be living through the worst of the apocalyptic period starting about right now. The Bell Riots (unrest in California regarding "sanctuary" districts -- sound familiar?) would've happened last year, and the Second World War/WWIII is due to start next year.
Are we not post-apocalyptic in the eyes of the romans?
Yeah but they didn't have weapons that could flash-vaporize entire cities while setting thousands of square miles of everything on radioactive fire. Honestly theirs was probably worse.
Rome took centuries to decline, hardly an apocalypse.
Archimedes: Hold my wine.
I mean technically we live in a post apocalyptic era too.
It's that it was before humans were around.
The most recent apocalypse could arguably be 536 AD, when most of the world couldn't see the sun for 18 months.
To paraphrase Colossus from Deadpool 2 (or possibly Calvin's dad): volcanic winter caused by things blowing up builds character.
Eh, not enough mass extinction. Needs more giant meteorites or extreme and sudden climate change.
Well hey, at least we might get to see one of those! Don't forget your 3D glasses too
Personally, I'm excited
That's a shower thought if any.
So is adventure time, what’s your point