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I still don't know what 'woke' means except it's like the opposite of the 'moral values' bullshit Republican's spewed before it became impossible for even Republicans to ignore that is was complete bullshit.
So basically they gave up campaigning on their own morality and decided to campaign against a made-up immorality instead... I guess if they've ruled out just not being morally bankrupt this is actually a good strategy.
Woke = everything conservatives hate.
In reality, it means to be aware of something for the first time.
That's ok, they don't know what woke means either
Conservatives have been buying tickets to the Qanon film Sound of Freedom but the theaters are empty. They are just buying tickets to make it appear people are seeing it. They are not.
That's amusingly pathetic.
They were doing some thing of pay it forward garbage where they would get donations "so we can open the public eyes" and then buyout a theater showing, which no one was there.
They sure do love to fling money at the most random dumb shit, and then immediately complain that democrats are the reason they're broke
You have to be pretty dang motivated these days to go to a movie theater. You have to really want to see that movie. I don’t think these people care enough to get off their ass, drive to a theater, pay money, and then watch crap. Why not see Barbie instead? It’s guaranteed to be more fun and you can still go home afterwards and project how much you hate it on your right wing piece of shit social network.
Saw Oppenheimer tonight, the number of people wearing bright pink in the theater lobby was a sight to behold.
It was really cool actually.
But my conservative dad posted on Facebook that it was a flop...
In their reality, it is. And that’s all that matters anymore.
My conservative father in law is posting about how great the idiotic Sound of Freedom movie is. I don't even think he's seen it
Sound of Freedom - 71% Rotten Tomatoes
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sound_of_freedom
Box office by week:
Tue 7/4 to Mon 7/10 - $45,668,594
Tue 7/12 to Mon 7/17 - $45,064,968
Tue 7/18 to Sun 7/23 - $33,699,950
Total: $124,433,512
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl4254237441/?ref_=bo_tt_gr_1
Barbie - 90% Rotten Tomatoes
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/barbie
Box office by week:
Fri 7/21 to Sun 7/23 - $162,022,044
Total: $162,022,044
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1077904129/?ref_=bo_tt_gr_1
For the record, Oppenheimer - 94% Rotten Tomatoes
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/oppenheimer_2023
Box office by week:
Fri 7/21 to Sun 7/23 - $82,455,420
Total: $82,455,420
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3725886209/?ref_=bo_tt_gr_1
Oppenheimer is 1 hour and 6 minutes longer than Barbie (3 hours vs. 1 hour, 54 minutes), it literally can't have as many showings and has an age limited audience due to the rating.
I saw a little of ben Shapipos reaction to it through a leftist streamer.
It was hilarious. He was literally mad that a core message of the movie is that you can be whoever you want to as a woman.
Thats the slogan of the company Ben, idk why you didn't know that.
He doesn't want to know that. He'd rather tell you what Barbie and, by proxy, other women are.
Women who think independently is the biggest threat to conservatives on the planet
Thing is, we've never actually had an instance where someone went broke, by going woke.
Turns out most people don't care about this shit when the movie's actually, you know, good.
Now let me start by saying that i recomend barbie very much, that being said, im gonna get ravaged by you people cuz i didnt think barbie was a woke film. Already saw it and while yes its message is feminist, its not shoehorned, doesnt try to pander to audiences with forced diversity where it doesnt make sense, its very self aware, has good writing in that it has well writen characters and they and the plot dont feel like the writers wish fullfilment power fantasy, and the message at end isnt even that left leaning imho since it doesnt dive that much on a certaing thing i thought they were hinting at and seems to be aware of it but at the end it doesnt really take it to light, thought i may be wrong on the end part since thats more on a personal level to me and i wont discus it here due to spoilers.
I'm not going to ravage you, but I am going to point out you seem to have a conceptualization of the term "woke" that's likely much narrower than how Republicans seem to use it. Being (and acting) self-aware is itself "woke" if you listen to how some of them use the term, which would make Barbie super woke
Woke is when someone on the left. Feminist are at least generally associated with the left, therefore woke.
I agree. Totally went into it blind and I found it inoffensive and absolutely fuckin hilarious.
I don't think I know what woke means anymore and really I hate this term. Can we call it enlightenment or something? I like to have my mind opened to new ideas/concepts or discussion of ideals that align with how society is it should be.
Sorry rant over. I'll likely watch the movie when it's available for home viewing. 👍
It is enlightenment. Literally a term from the early 1900s meaning awareness of racial injustice. It is just another term the conservative movement has turned into a dirty word through unrelenting coordinated media efforts.
Killing it means engaging them - so, enjoy that. Just ask things like "what does that mean?" And literally, about any of their dirty words. They don't know what any of those words mean mostly because those aforementioned efforts rely on vagueness to be effective and any solid, consistent definition would weaken its power. So get them to define it. Then, repeat their definition back to them in terms that make them sounds as fucking stupid as they are.
fuckin libs bro, i can’t stop lusting after hot pink ryan gosling! this is what the left wants! THIS IS THE FUTURE IF YOU GO WOKE! WAIT!WHERE’S EVERYONE GOING? COME BACK!
Can someone TL;DR what's so controversial about this movie? All I know about it is that it's about barbie, and it stars the lady from wolf of wall street. I can tell that trying to research it myself will not improve my life in any way.
It's lightly criticizes and gleefully satires the real world's patriarchal structure, so some people (the vast majority being right-leaning men) are saying it's anti men and supports misandry. It definitely isn't and doesn't though.
I can't speak to whether this is a good movie or not, as I haven't seen it yet. What I can notice is that the 'Barbie' IP appeals to a broad demographic, and every woman I know is planning on seeing this soon.
Strongly suspect Barbie movie's success is due to good marketing, not alleged 'wokeness'.
I think its success has more to do with how they've broadened the appeal of a Barbie movie by being critical of it in a way that feels honest and appeals to people that like Barbie as well as those that hate Barbie. I am not Barbie's main demo nor have I ever been a fan of anything related to Barbie, but the buzz got me to skeptically see it opening weekend, and I was absolutely shocked at how much I enjoyed it from start to finish.
Writer/Director Greta Gerwig and producer Margot Robbie should get most of the credit for how the movie turned out, but Matel should get some credit too for allowing these women to embrace the complicated and flawed nature of the IP with the story that they have told.
Shitty movies with shitty marketing don't make money, sure
The fact this is supposedly decent and is doing well has made conservatives so mad, I thought Obama just won a 3rd term
It's actually "go woke or go broke"
I know nothing about this movie except that it's apparently a fun time. Can someone please tell me what makes the Barbie Movie "woke" just for the sake of context?
Because apparently telling children/girls that they can have independence, be anything they want, and recognizing womens struggles is woke
Without spoilers, they broadly bring up the idea that equality for the sexes isn't in effect at present moment.
Being woke is looking at the system critically. It's not taking what you're told at face value, it's examining your own beliefs and the beliefs of society about the system
It's pretty ironic the way most are using the word
Please explain to me what is woke..oh a bunch of things you hold predjudice to but won't admint to properly
A Matel advert in chewing-gum-for-the-brain movie format for a mid XX century female doll with impossibly thin proportions, backed by a gigantic marketing budged, is hardly a socially progressive anything.
The best movies from an equalitarian point of view that have been coming out in the last decade often have women as "the hero" in an absolutelly natural way (i.e. people who happen to be female overcomming impossible odds) as well as way better gender balance in the casting than in the past.
Only nutters from the extremist identitarian factions (on self-defined "both sides") are looking at this Matel advertorial using big fat bottle-bottom thick goggles of "wokeness".
Normal people will just enjoy the movie or not, on its own merits.
"We should judge this movie on its merits as a movie and not on social values like wokeness"
Judges movie exclusively on levels of social values like wokeness and corporatism without once mentioning a damn thing about the movie
Woke has been so overused I legit don't even know what it's supposed to mean any more. It's got to the point where anything with a female main character is described as "woke" by somebody. Still, I appreciate it when people do describe things as woke, because it means I don't have to listen to any more of the noise coming out of them.
Personally I'm just here for Margot who is consistently great in everything, and Ryan who I didn't think I'd like but it turns out I do. Every comedy role he's done has been absolute gold.
Barbie did well because Barbie dolls are incredibly popular and Ryan Gosling. Being woke or not being woke has nothing to do with the success.
The film has several positive monologs that are correctly callout issues in modern society. To a conservative that equals woke.