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[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 213 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We're starting to normalize charging sitting politicians for their crimes again and I'm here for it

I wish Abscam had ushered in a whole new wave of the executive branch actively testing the corruption level of the legislative branch as part of its normal operating procedures

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 131 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yep. Democrat or Republican, doesn't matter. Get the crooks out.

(We all know it's mostly Republicans, of course.)

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 110 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My favorite moment was when Robert Menendez was charged with fraud. First, the Republicans tried to make it into a gotcha moment. "See? The Democrats will try to protect this criminal!" Except the Democrats either called for him to resign or refused to comment. Very few stood by him against the charges.

And then the Republicans realized that "Menendez should resign due to fraud charges" would apply to Santos as well. Suddenly, the Republicans were all for Menendez staying in Congress until he had his day in court.

So you had Republicans saying "this Democrat should remain in office" and (many) Democrats saying "he should resign ASAP."

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I feel like there's an important precedent with Hunter Biden, too. Yes you can get charged even if you're in the royal family. It'll make absolutely no difference to what the Republicans say, since they make no pretense of consistency, but it'll make a difference to actual law enforcement and judicial decisions to some degree, which are a lot more impactful.

[–] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The difference of course is that Hunter Biden is being prosecuted for something that is normally not prosecuted solely because of his families political ties. The Trump family were not investigated/prosecuted for things that are normally prosecuted because of political ties.

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[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Yeah absolutely. And if there are crooked Democrats get rid of them too.

Getting rid of the crooks, and keeping the honest people, should be something bipartisan as far as the citizenry is concerned, but people are tribal and so here we are.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Normalize convicting them. Normalize sentences that match the crime.

Charges don't mean shit if the rest of the legal process doesn't do its job, and lately it hasn't had the greatest track record.

[–] RememberTheApollo@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

As long as the penance is appropriate and not a slap in the wrist it all might actually mean something.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 146 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like he's qualified to be the next Speaker now

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Or a Republican presidential candidate. Hell, it sounds like he's fit to be a supreme court justice.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 year ago

It’s funny. After all, he personally developed what would come to be known as the Supreme Court.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 131 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What's hilarious about this is the GOP needs his vote so bad that they can't actually impeach him. And now that they are having a internal civil war with Matt Gaetz and the far right, George could literally walk around naked in the capital and not be removed 🤣 The GOP is a total joke. Literally looney toons of politics

[–] Empricorn 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, it's fucking hilarious watching our country unable to function and strangled by greed and corruption.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Non-Americans experiencing schadenfreude after a hundred years of American self aggrandisement.

It's not good, but it is what it is. Welcome to the U.S.A., best country in the world.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, due to our stupid system that gives the right far too much power in relation to their numbers, the butt of the joke is the American people, since all of these assholes are holding us hostage.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

The solution is voting. Vote.

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[–] ech@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We might just see our first elected official serving from prison.

[–] cxg@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You might have to clarify which republican you are talking about….since there are multiple 😶

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[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Seems like a race right now.

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[–] HWK_290@lemmy.world 98 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe former president George Santos is immune to the charges based on the presidential records act. Look it up libs

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

He's got diplomatic immunity anyway since he's the wife of a French diplomat

[–] finthechat@kbin.social 87 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't believe they would do this to an Olympic gold medalist and former astronaut

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

If they'll charge the Emperor of the Moon with these crimes, are any of us really safe?

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 66 points 1 year ago

Not sure why an 3-time all-star pitcher for the Yankees needs to commit credit card fraud.

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just when you thought he couldn't get any more cartoonishly evil

"Prosecutors describe how he used the credit card of a donor, identified only as “Contributor No. 12,” repeatedly, without the person’s awareness or approval, charging $15,800 to Mr. Santos’s campaign and associated committees. In the following months, prosecutors say, Mr. Santos charged that same donor an additional $44,800, some of which was routed through a Florida company associated with the Devolder Organization. At least $11,000 of that money was transferred directly into Mr. Santos’s bank account, prosecutors said in the indictment."

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is preposterous, how can they do this to a national hero? This guy literally took mankind's first steps on the Moon and single-handedly won the Vietnam War for America, WTF?

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This man literally killed Hitler and Stalin with his bare hands, and then fucked a supermodel so hard she got double pregnant with triplets. He delivered all 8 babies himself after only a week gestation because George Santos's sperm are so fast.

This man has won 118 gold medals in sports he himself invented.

I would call him a saint but that would make Jesus Christ jealous.

Chuck Norris looks at George Santos's platonic ideal of a body and spontaneously orgasms. It's so powerful that we mere mortals can only look upon a puppet, which is still so attractive that he has to be censored in middle Eastern countries.

[–] sudo@lemmy.today 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This man literally killed Hitler

I think this might not be a selling point for the target audience

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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 50 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"I did not have access to my phone. I have no clue what you guys are talking about.”

— Rep. George Santos (R-NY), when asked by CNN about the new criminal charges filed against him

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[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Criminals know stealing is best done in the shadows. Stupid criminals get in the public eye by taking a public office where everyone is looking at them and what they are doing or did.

Trump and Santos are stupid criminals.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I honestly don't think Trump initially meant to win. Go watch the video in Trump Tower when they announce. Everyone is partying down, Trump is in the back, on a couch, head in hands.

We could fairly argue that he showed a typical reaction to winning the highest office in the land! I now see a man who realized he would be exposed, big time.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree. I think his original plan was to run, lose, and then claim that the election was rigged against him. Then, he'd have spent 4 years grifting. He'd also have been paid to appear on right wing media to talk about how President Hillary was bungling X and how he would handle X so much better. (All without giving any details on how he'd handle X.)

Basically, what he's done since leaving office in 2021.

Of course, once he was in office, he got addicted to the power and now he wants that back. Plus, he sees it as the only way to avoid prison. So his 2024 Presidential bid is 100% serious.

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[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This legal justification is so far outside the proper legal authority and scope for Congressmam Santos that I'm actually embarrassed for the DOJ.

Mr. Santos can only be detained, or otherwise 'dealt' with by an official Letter of Marque that is signed by King George III. Which is CLEARLY NOT CONTAINED in any of those documents.

Sham. Fraud.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So we'll wait two years and announce we gave up like we did with Matt Gaetz.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

These are money crimes. Lots and lots of paper trails, way more than gaetz "$900 for school" to his pimp friend.

They have Santos campaign manager for 4yrs in a plea already. Shits getting thick.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

We'll see if you're right.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

More importantly, Gaetz's crimes were only against a woman. These crimes are about something modern US really cares about - money.

[–] Chr0nos1@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's time to clean house. Get all of the corrupt congresspersons out, Republican and Democrat. We need to start over from scratch at this point I think.

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why can't we hold Police and Politicians to a much higher standard than the average citizen?

It is the opposite, and that is bonkers and backwards.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Due Lemmy, I learned all sorts of new things about George Santos' bio. And I had a good laugh this morning. Thanks, folks.

[–] LarryTheMatador@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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[–] Naja_kaouthia@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

I just wanted to thank you all for all of your kind comments for the President of the World and 10 time hall of fame quarterback.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Take a minor across state lines for the purpose of sex; help cover up someone else's history of molesting gymnastics minors - no problem! You can stay in congress! Lie about having money? You are out of congress! Can't have a poor person as a representative.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's fine, but what about Anthony Devolder? Or Kitara Revache? When will the DoJ do something about them?

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Good news! Anthony Devolder is mentioned 221 times in the indictment!

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