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The UK's Online Safety Act doesn't just age-gate porn; it blocks material deemed "harmful" to minors. Days after the law went into effect, reports of non-explicit content on social media getting blocked in the region started to crop up. Subreddits from r/IsraelCrimes to r/stopsmoking are now walled in the UK. Video games, Spotify, and dating apps have instituted or will institute age checks.

Given the SCOTUS age verification decision [June '25], Stabile fears that people [in the US] will go "mask off" in the fall and spring, when state legislatures start getting back together. "People are going to attempt to restrict the internet even more aggressively," Stabile said. "I think people are going to work to restrict all sorts of content, particularly LGBTQ content, but also content that is broadly defined as any sort of threat or propaganda to minors." Other experts Mashable spoke to agree with him.

"I'm going to jump to the end step," [Eric Goldman, law professor at the Santa Clara University School of Law] said. "The end step is that most online users are going to be required to age authenticate most of the time they visit websites. That's going to become the norm." In a paper he wrote, Goldman called these statutes "segregate-and-suppress" laws.

The stated reason behind these laws is to "protect children." But as journalist Taylor Lorenz pointed out, in the UK, age verification is already preventing children from accessing vital information, such as about menstruation and sexual assault.

"When we see crackdowns on spaces on the internet, we're essentially stripping away that potential for self-actualization," Goldman said. We've reached the dystopian stage of the internet, he added.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 11 points 16 hours ago

UK isnt so puritanical as the US, the sudden shift is very suspect of the actors behind these legislations all over the world.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 34 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Until they ban Tor there will always be porn available.

This isn't about protecting children.

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 17 hours ago

It never was. But that is hard to discuss. I remember when I still was young and went to house parties decades ago when my country discussed yet again some measures "to protect the children", don't recall exactly what, you found lots young people who of course couldn't be against protecting the children. How could you be against that? It's such a shitty way to get these things through.

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[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 41 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The very instant a website wants me to verify my age by providing PII, I’ll just blacklist that website from my network. There isn’t a single website that I can’t go without.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What if it ends up being all discussion boards?

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Oh no, where can I go in order to be made to feel outraged by chronically online children, bots, and foreign intelligence services.

/s

[–] Sonor@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, blacklist those goobers too

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Remember, according to the UK government you're legally able to have sex, give birth, choose your future, and (soon?) vote at 16. Heaven forfend if you see a pair of titties though, you're not mature enough for that...

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 21 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

You can have sex, but you better not look!

I'm not against a bit of spice, but blindfolds at 16 just seem a little advanced. Especially when sex at that age is akin to a oblong peg in a tesseract shaped hole of unknown location.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

No no you're missing the point. It's not that you can't look, you just have to tap the gubmint on the shoulder so they can watch you look

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 229 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

Age verification isn't really age verification: it's identity verification. And once you have given your identity to one or two websites, data brokers will ensure that all your other activity on the internet will eventually be tied to it. Burner devices and anonymous VPNs could help, but only until those become illegal too.

This will have a chilling effect on not only every kind of discourse the fascists hate, but also political organization and people's ability to resist. You won't be able to organize a protest online without the police knowing in advance who is likely to come and finding a pretext to intimidate or pre-arrest them, or just be ready for them when they show up.

[–] sleepundertheleaves@infosec.pub 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Age verification isn't really age verification: it's identity verification.

I agree. And I think this is the most important reason why big tech companies are either supporting, or not commenting on, age verification laws. Being able to reliably link all a user's online activity to their real identity is a big data wet dream.

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[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's the most insightful and chilling comment I've read in a while. I especially like the "it's not age verification; it's identity verification" part. (That messaging needs to be more commonplace.) The key(s) for organizing data about individuals online will shift from email addresses only to enough stable identifiers to impersonate someone or maybe even steal their identity. Data leaks and fraud will probably increase dramatically given the value-add of these data.

With the level of quashing dissent these days - eg UK police arresting hundreds of nonviolent people with placards denouncing genocide; military deployments in LA and DC - no wonder certain states/ governments support online identity verification laws.

"No Kings" protests are already a non-story in mainstream news today. Tomorrow, they can be prevented from happening in the first place! /s c/aboringdystopia

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 21 points 22 hours ago

And one key thing. Fascists and fascist collaborators will claim, "everything you do online and already tracked to your real identity." But the truth is, if that were already the case, then there wouldn't be a push for these identity verification laws.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 17 points 1 day ago

Time to start making zines and locally organizing i guess

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You won’t be able to organize a protest online without the police knowing in advance who is likely to come and finding a pretext to intimidate or pre-arrest them.

That's been true for a while. But it was "The FBI can put a pin in it" true before. And now it feels like "LinkedIn is going to have a second secret file on you" true.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Fun fact:

That was the plan all along.

The guy who founded LinkedIn... Paypal mafia
The guys who invested in Facebook. . PayPal mafia
The guys who founded YouTube.... Paypal mafia
The guy who founded Square .... Paypal mafia
The guy who ran doge and got all your us gov datasets, has literally half of all satellites in orbit sucking up your location and data... Paypal mafia

The guy who decides who attends the bilderberg group, is ceo of the ai that is used by nearly every police force in the USA, and has contracts with military, who funded trump and Vance... Paypal Mafia

These guys have literally created the techno society we are now slaves to.

They are just getting started.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago (3 children)

We need to purge our society of these genital obsessed religious extremists

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

genital obsessed religious extremists

A lot of these people are pedophiles just like the owner class so it makes sense why they always get good representation

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

When they've been in Power for so long pedophilia becomes an elite norm.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

We should haul them into public arenas and feed them to lions. They get off to that sort of thing.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Lions are boring. I wanna see the fanatics fight hippos and a pissed off rhino.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

I'm thinking hyaenas.

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

"I’m fairly sure if they took porn off the internet, there’d only be one website left, and it’d be called Bring back the porn!"

- Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 107 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nuclear weapons are harmful to children.

Global warming is harmful to children.

Microplastics and forever chemicals are harmful to children.

But, no, let’s just block the porn.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 10 points 17 hours ago

The world is on fire

But don't say "cunt"

Angelspit - Don't Say

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The felon sitting in the Oval Office is harmful to children.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

*The pedophile king whose name has been confirmed to be in the Epstein files

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Somewhere in the UK, a 13 year old has already figured out a way to bypass it and watch porn.

That's what young me would have done.

[–] Minoot@lemmynsfw.com 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There's a news clip of a reporter bypassing the restrictions in under 4 seconds. I actually think more teens will get around this than adults lmao. I look at the positives though, the silver lining is at least teens are learning about vpns early.

Oh god we're so fucked.

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