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Collective Shout, a small but vocal lobby group, has long called for a mandatory internet filter that would prevent access to adult content for everyone in Australia. Its director, Melinda Tankard Reist, was recently appointed to the stakeholder advisory board for the government’s age assurance technology trial before the under-16s social media ban comes into effect in Australia in December.

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[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Let's say it like it is: after the world of hundreds of developers is undermined, and the property of thousands of customers is compromised.

[–] CorruptCheesecake@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Who's behind this sudden wave of age verification bullshit, Schrödinger's parents? The ones who shove an iPad in front of their 2 year old and berate school teachers for not being poorly paid babysitters who raise their kids for them? And yet they claim to care SO MUCH about the well being of children that they push these obscene and draconian policies on the rest of us? What a bunch of fucking hypocrites, but that's typical for conservatives.

[–] proton_lynx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Don't be fooled, that's not the real reason. Parents that shove iPads in front of their children are not even remotely worried about what their kids are watching online. This is purely about control, has nothing to do with children.

[–] lowleekun@ani.social 55 points 2 days ago

Governments and some religious nutjobs.

They only pretend to care about children. It is about power and control. Always has been, always will.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 129 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

While Collective Shout solely targeted games it said violated policies held by payment platforms, Itch.io's move to temporarily remove all NSFW content resulted in games with LGBTQ+ themes being removed.

One petition signer who is a member of the LGBTQ+ community said they were concerned that banning sexual-based games would be the start of cracking down on LGBTQ+ content.

There it is.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (12 children)

if the LGBTQ+ games were not sexual in nature (why does it not say?), then that is quite damning and I approve of this conspiracy theory.

[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you google Tankard-Reist you'll find it's not a conspiracy theory - she has actively tried to block queer representation at every level in every way for decades

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[–] chaonaut@lemmy.4d2.org 39 points 3 days ago

It's not all that much of a conspiracy theory as those pushing this line at the payment processoers openly advocate that since LGBTQ+ references sex by way of sexuality and gender, then that is sexual content, and is therefore inappropriate for children. This, of course, completely ignores heterosexuality and cisgender because they consider queer people existing to be harmful to children. And trying to get through to them about how important age-appropriate sexual education is in combating child abuse is an exercise in frustration.

politicians have literally said that the reason for censorship bills about the internet are specifically to go after lgbtq spaces.

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[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world 119 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So sick of conservatives forcing their beliefs on others. Filter your own content, use parents controls, don’t ban everything you don’t like because of your arrogant belief in made up morality. Morality is relative and religion does not give your opinions weight.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Yeah but Jesus definitely preached love thy neighbor, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, and also, ew gay people not in my back yard.

I'm pretty confident on two of those anyway

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 153 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What's even the argument here? Steam already has parental control options, age gates, and content filters... if you don't want your kids seeing that shit on steam, then, like, don't let em?

...meanwhile, let's just continue shoving blatant gambling down minors' throats in the form of lootboxes.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 70 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This group isn't interested in protecting children they're just interested in pushing their own beliefs on everybody else. The easiest way they can do that is to pretend that they're interested in children. Which I'm sure some of them are, but not in the capacity that anyone wants them to be.

It's a classic right-wing tactic. Because nobody wants to be against a law that protects children.

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)
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[–] Lebensmittel@sh.itjust.works 94 points 3 days ago (9 children)

The argument is control. Religious zealots are all about controlling society and subduing people to follow their rules (that they themselves tend to break all the time)

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 246 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Keep the pressure on.

Collective Shout got them to change their position and they're a small group. We are legion, as the kids say

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 112 points 3 days ago (7 children)

And we're the ones spending the money

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 25 points 3 days ago

That's really what I don't get. Why make it impossible for people to give you money. That doesn't seem to be the way capitalism is supposed to operate if something is popular then you should allow it.

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[–] n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (4 children)

"Face backlash" = about 160,000 people signed a petition saying they disagreed with it, then went about their daily lives and totally, 100% without a doubt continued using their Visa or Mastercard credit cards.

They don't care, there are no alternatives. They can do whatever they want.

[–] seralth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I switched all my master and visa cards to amex, canceled a visa card and the only have my debit as visa now because my credit union ONLY offers visa for debit

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[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 197 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Maybe it’s just because I’m so focused on my own issues as a US citizen… But how the hell did some Australian Christofascist group get this powerful? Like, the RIAA and MPAA combined couldn’t get the United States government to make this much movement on “objectionable content” (piracy at the time, and also now, and all of the time between then and now), but even the crypto fascists of yesterday year couldn’t get this much traction. Probably because people like Frank Zappa and Fred Rogers came forth to criticize the ridiculousness and the consequences of such a position and search policies.

May 1, 1969: Fred Rogers testifies before the Senate Subcommittee on Communications

And 16 years later:

Frank Zappa at PMRC Senate Hearing on Rock Lyrics

STAND UP!!! FIGHT BACK!! Citizen complacency is the most powerful weapon the fascist have – – relying on that you will be paralyzed with fear and do nothing to stop them.

RISE UP! RESIST! REVOLT!!

And show us the fucking Epstein files already, you fucking rapist, con man, felon, pedo, traitor!

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 74 points 3 days ago (19 children)

They got together enough people to mass email, that is all it took.

Companies tend to multiply received responses to represent the total number of people who were to lazy to complain, so Visa and MasterCard saw 1,000 emails as 10,000,000 in their risk averse actions.

Now 4chan is pissed and have started their own mass email and phonecall campaign, so we shall see where this goes...

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Visa also have a fairly well documented history of kowtowing to Christian groups. The CEO of their Asian division is a right-wing religious fanatic who hates, well he's a religious fanatic so you know what he hates, but it's basically everything and everybody.

They don't like Japanese anime very much as well, probably because they think it's all pornography (anime does tend to have that bent, but it's not all pornography).

The thing is on their website they claim not to make moral judgements about purchasers, they claim to authorise anything that isn't actually illegal, so they should be totally fine with pornography and anime. If they are going to be right-wing religious fundamentalists at least they could be honest about it on their website.

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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 40 points 3 days ago

Probably because they didnt go throught the government, which takes a long time to move on anything, and just put pressure on some profit seeking corporations that just want to get a bother to go away, but which also unfortunately have been put in a position of practical power equal to some types of legislation.

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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 135 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Feels like we're going back to the 90s/00s "Christian parents against video games" moral panic era. But this time, they're being appeased more heavily.

I despise conservatism. It destroys everything it touches.

[–] TheTurner@lemmy.zip 37 points 3 days ago

It's another Satanic Panic.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And there's way fewer Christians nowadays

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 23 points 3 days ago (4 children)
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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 59 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The Mastercard/Visa monopoly (or duopoly) is bad for consumers. It should be broken up.

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[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 24 points 2 days ago

Yet 1000 weirdos in Australia will have more sway, curiously.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As long as it is legal CC companies should be barred from dictating what products and services their systems cover.

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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

“The internet has no borders. Women and girls everywhere are impacted by male violence against women and misogyny in general which we believed these games perpetuated,” she said.

Yet the fictional violence against men and boys is A-Ok!

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 113 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Somebody should check their PCs and internet history; after all, name a better duo than Conservatives and Projection.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 56 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I’d bet real money that the CEO of Collective Shout has CSAM on one or more of their computers.

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[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 65 points 3 days ago (4 children)

"[Elon Musk] said he wanted to get his own X payments platform «going soon»".

Surely that's going to solve the problem. There's absolutely no censorship on Twitter. /s

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[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 29 points 3 days ago (5 children)

When is the European alternative to these coming?

[–] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 31 points 3 days ago (3 children)

An alternative to PayPal, called WERO is currently in it's rollout process in Germany, Belgium and France. In October the next step will be activated, allowing payments in e-commerce. Later down the road, you'll be able to pay in real shops. Luxembourg and Netherlands are to join in next. More and more banks start to adopt WERO.

I urge everyone to use WERO as much as you can. It's flying a bit under the radar at the moment and this must be a success. Hopefully more EU members will join soon.

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[–] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 days ago

Fuck Collective Shout, or anyone spreading censorship!

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