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YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat. (lemmy.world)

submitted 23 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) by Wulri@lemmy.world to c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world

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Red meat has a huge carbon footprint because cattle requires a large amount of land and water.

https://sph.tulane.edu/climate-and-food-environmental-impact-beef-consumption

Demand for steaks and burgers is the primary driver of Deforestation:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-beef-industry-fueling-amazon-rainforest-destruction-deforestation/

https://e360.yale.edu/features/marcel-gomes-interview

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2023-06-02/almost-a-billion-trees-felled-to-feed-appetite-for-brazilian-beef

If you don't have a car and rarely eat red meat, you are doing GREAT 🙌 🙌

Sure, you can drink tap water instead of plastic water. You can switch to Tea. You can travel by train. You can use Linux instead of Windows AI's crap. Those are great ideas. Also, don't drive yourself crazy. If you are only an ordinary citizen, remember that perfect is the enemy of good.

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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Rice and refried beans for me! (my cholesterol is high)

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[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

How is dark chocolate so high? :o

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Slash and burn Cocoa farming

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

how does hunted vs farmed meat compare?

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Not disagreeing that meat is bad for the environment, but I think not having kids is probably way above cutting out meat.

[–] dropped_packet@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Who looks at this world and wants to bring life into it? I fundamentally cannot wrap my head arround that.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I just had a kid and I also believe the world is on fire. Firstly we're extraordinarily privileged and even then I wasn't sure. Secondly we just wanted to and are able to, it's not excessively stressful because we have enough money and good jobs (my panic attacks have been the normal new parent variety, not the "world is on fire" kind), I've prepared for years. Third I guess it gives me some hope. Our kid will have their own path. But whatever they choose they'll be trained to spot disinformation and religious thinking like a sane adult so that gives me some hope. Hopefully it's enough to counteract the 100 other Idiocracy right wing children.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (5 children)

Yeah. Just had this convo with my partner two days ago.

Reasons why I don't want kids.

Number one, they can't consent to being born, If given the choice, I would not consent to being born right now, why should I force that on someone else.

Number two, we can't afford kids right now, even with both of us working full time jobs. (Not bragging, but both my partner and I make over the median household income for our area. I legit have no idea how other people do it, because we are paycheck to paycheck right now.)

Number three, even though abortion is legally protected in the constitution of my state, our legislators at the state and the federal levels are seeking to undo those protections against the will of the people. There is no guarantee that if we had a complicated pregnancy, that they would survive or even be able to find healthcare.

Number four, we are knowingly perpetuating an ongoing climate disaster. I can't in good faith bring someone into this world knowing that they will be displaced or die because the part of the planent they live on may become inhospitable due to our inaction.

Number five, we're seeing the rise of far right antagonist fascist movement worldwide. At this point a global war for basic human rights is inevitable, if not already started.

Number six, there are always hundreds of thousands of children stuck in the foster/adoption system who are destined to struggle for the rest of their lives because of a lack of family support. I would adopt long before I would consider bringing another person into this world.

Thanks for attending my doom rant.

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If you don't consent to being born into this world right now, would that not mean that you should just kill yourself? I off course don't mean to say that you should, but I'm curious why you have a drive to live, and thereby consuming precious resources that could benefit less defeatist people. Or would you have chosen differently if you had been asked when you were born.

I understand that we seem to be in a global situation where imminent doom is unavoidable but maybe you should ask older people or read up, because I think these things happen on a regular basis.

And no, I don't want to downplay the consequences of the multiple clusterfuck of global catastrophes we're heading into (since a long time). Maybe I'm just a hopeless optimist :).

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[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

This is a perfect explanation.

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[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 4 hours ago

I want to, but its a desire, its not rational.

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[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Accounting for emissions per kilogram isn't that fair, can we account for emissions per 1000 kilocalorie? Or emissions per protein?

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

We need significant subsidies invested into vat grown meat. But now Big Ag is getting it banned in every state it can. Texas and Florida have already banned it.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago

While cultured meat really could be a game changer (as long as it's being done in a way that doesn't exploit and harm animals in and of itself), let's not forget that plants in and of themselves are amazing, right now.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Can we please have a source for the YSK statement you made in the title and the graph?

I have seen data on not having kids being the biggest choice a person can make to prevent future emissions. You also didn't mention flying less often, or not flying when a reasonable alternative exists. What is the relative impact of all of these things compared to dietary changes? Numbers on that would be helpful.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Being alive is bad for the environment.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 hours ago (17 children)

Veganism is good, necessary even, but more than voting we need to actually overthrow capitalism and replace it with socialism. Profit will destroy the planet unless we take control of the reigns from capital.

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[–] gerowen@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

You can't survive around here (eastern Kentucky) without owning your own car. The nearest Walmart to me is a half hour drive at 60mph and we don't have taxis in any of the towns around me. That's 7 hours of walking, each way. No buses or trains either. The closest store of any kind to me is a Dollar General and is about 2 hours each way if I walk.

[–] dropped_packet@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 hours ago

A lot of the anti-car sentiment comes from urban, or European communities where population is a lot more dense.

Rural America will be the absolute lowest priority, because there are fewer people spread farther out. Anyone who wants to make someone feel bad about that is just a dick.

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[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago

Not loving that the exact source of the data in this graph is not clearly linked in the description.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 55 points 8 hours ago (22 children)

Sure, but like ~8 companies produce like 75% of the pollution. Their biggest con was shifting the responsibility to individuals to change their habits instead of forcing them to clean up their factories

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (6 children)

question, how come beef is so cheap it's it takes so much resources?

if it's just subsidies, then we should get rid of them

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 3 hours ago

Polluting is a bit different from taking resources. The industry should be more regulated, which would maybe convert the damage made to the environment into an increased price of beef.

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