Elon's gonna ask Grok "what should the America party's policies be?" and we're going to end up with a nuke on michigan's upper peninsula somehow.
this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2025
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definitely easier to mount a political project when you can rely on your sycophants to autogenerate your dumb policies for you
Can't believe people suck so much at history. We already had an America Party. Musk isn't creating a political party, he's recreating it. And the platform is the same.
Ketamines a hell of a drug
Well this is gonna go nowhere
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""centrist policies""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
yeah thats not a completely undefinable term and completely open to interpretation or anything. surely they wont just be far right policies
The Fun Timeline is where this party takes voters from both sides and then somehow nobody can achieve a majority to pass things because all three parties dig their heels in, creating further partisan chaos
I can dream
They hiring yet?
Yeah!
So basically its Militech from Cyberpunk 77 but with much worse marketing / PR, and as a political party.
I mean, at least its more honest ???
I think it's more a horizon zero dawn scenario, where they modernize the military with drones and AI until there's a bug in the code, and oops our killer bots have wiped out the biosphere. When the only reason the killer bots were being used was for corporations to wage minor wars against each other in the pursuit of increasingly smaller ecological niches.
I agree with aspects of that comparison as well.
Probably not likely to get to the point of like... an entire robotic fascimile ecosystem...
But ... we are now beyond the Terminator scenario:
Multiple nation states are right now implementing AI at many stages of the 'kill chain' information passing and decision making structures of their militaries, in targetting systems, in all kinds of drones, land air sea... not to mention the actual Skynet type scenario of attempting to detect and intercept missiles.
In Terminator, the system like... gains awareness and escapes into everything computer.
We are just voluntarily putting it into everything, it wouldn't even have to really 'escape'... just have one of these systems majorly fuck up, and that'd trigger a cascading chain of other AI systems fucking up and or responding reasonably to some other system's fuck up.
...
There are other reasons for using AI in things like drones though:
You can jam a remote controlled drone, blast it with EM/radio waves to confuse the shit out of it, sever connection, or be more clever and hack into it, hijack it.
So... the cheap solution to this appears to be spools of fiber optic cables, sorta like a TOW missile, such that you just actually have a direct, wired connection the whole time.
But that obviously doesn't work at all ranges and for all types of drones... so... just let them think for themselves, what could go wrong??!
its much more lame, what state-like power does Musk have? None. All the corps in Cyberpunk have equivalent powers to nation-states, their own armies. McPolice and all.
i think closest to that irl currently is Palantir and some of the MIC Corps but they don't fight their own wars yet.
Fair points.
Lets say Musk aspires toward Militech, lol?
EDIT:
But also, Musk did just literally have his goons be allowed to waltz in to damn near every government database of any kind and probably make offsite copies of all of that data.
So... that's your much more state-corpo nexus right there, granted this relationship / level of access turned out to be temporary.
Unless his goons gave themselves backdoors, or exposed accidental backdoors to... basically anyone, by ripping up the security systems with granted god mode admin, in order to be able do what they wanted.
Which... seems to actually be what they did, what happened.
EDIT 2:
PMCs very much are their own military/police forces.
You just don't often hear about them and what they do, because they tend to have decent OPSEC and media control.
Like uh, 03, Katrina.
Blackwater just deployed to New Orleans, started shooting 'looters' and going around breaking into houses and 'securing' firearms.
They did this for a period of time with no actual prior mandate or authorization.
Said mandate and authorization were formally given by the government several days to weeks after they just fucking deployed themselves, and then formally offered their services...'We're already on the scene, sir' type shit.
true, i think many billionaires want such kind of power, but i think for now they prefer to influence Government policy, and many ways it works better, i.e. no corpo-wars.
Sorry I may have now made two additonal uh, 'content updates' to what you replied to, in the time yoh made your reply, but yeah, it seems like we are on roughly the same page here.
I don't understand this reference 😭
Very broadly and roughly, in Cyberpunk 2077, Militech is... more or less the entire US military industrial complex, but all consolidated / merged into one huge megacorp.
Like ... imagine if Boeing, Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, General Motors, Ford, Colt, Smith & Wesson, Palantir, Anduril, Blackwater/Xi/Academi/Constellis, SpaceX, KBR...
... were all just subdivisions of one huge holding corporation.
And then they just had a SuperPAC, and a political party to go along with it.
...
A whole lot of the... actual world building of most good cyberpunk fiction is ... well, either the logical conclusion of neoliberal economic trends if you're cynical/realistic, or a horrific and grotesque nightmare exaggeration... if you're optimistic/a naive liberal.
Most people just see the fanciful body augmentations and super technologies and go 'wow, cool!' at that, though.
...
But anyway, a megacorp is basically just an Anglicized way of saying 'Keiretsu'; Japan's giant conglomerates of ... basically a family of manufacturers, service providers, and banks that all work with each other as a sort of intracorporate family, or feudal fiefdom.
Much (most?) early cyberpunk pretty directly made clear their model for a 'megacorp' was corporate Japan in the 80s.
One million per 
-figure out what a parliamentarian does and replace them with grok
-name your kid taXfr33-420 at checkout for a 69% tax rebate
-replace all answer possibilities in standardized testing with "Concerning.", "Yeah!" and "laughcryingemoji" for efficiency
Here is the platform:
- No new taxes (especially for Elon)
- Update military (contracts for Elon)
- Pro-tech spending (contracts and tax breaks for Elon)
- Less regulation (on companies owned by Elon)
- Free speech (Can't ignore/delete Elon tweets or criticize him)
- pro-natalist (Let Elon keep paying for babies)
- Centerist policies everywhere else (Gaza? What does that have to do with Elon? Just take care of it yourselves leave me out of it).
hypernatalists staying way way worse than antinatalists
They deserve each other
Crazy how pro natalist doesn't mean supporting children with things like free housing, healthcare, childcare, and education; but instead means something like banning sexual education, abortion, and minimum wage because more slaves means line goes up
Y'all I'm gonna make the death to America party.
It sounds like we've already got three of those
"Yeah!"
Lmfao. Goddam how are we living in the stupidest timeline with the dumbest fucker having all the money in the world
capitalism rewards the most intelligent and capable people. since inception elon had to beat millions of other sperm just to be created. can you say you’ve ever done anything so hard? he earned it
He's electable if you VOTE FOR HIM.
George Santos for VP
woo it's the democrat/republican uniparty platform!
Reducing debt requires continuous Gov surpluses, who's going to pay for it? Not his class I'm sure.
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Just cut everything that isn't the military to 0, this will work 
It is his turn!
ameriKKKas first african president
He'll probably forget about it like the other shit he did in his coke filled misadventures
Democrats are furiously taking notes as we speak.
Odds on us getting a NYT or WaPo piece that's like "2028: What Democrats could learn from Musk's America Party" within the next 16 months?
100%
Would anybody get excited about this?
Im pretty excited we move one step closer to the downfall of the American Reich
I feel like a lot of bad shit is gonna happen before we see that.
My comment was meant a bit tongue in cheek. Look, I wish no harm upon the majority of Americans in fact, I want them to live happy and fulfilling lives. But as you said yourself, things will probably get worse before they get better.
the only way out is through
Maybe. Nothing is ever a given. Americans have to actually do something about it, which I am not optomistic for. Like 40 percent of the country still supports Trump. That is a LOT of fascists.
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