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Words matter.

You aren't writing an academic paper. Always use simple direct language.

  • Help the poor
  • Healthcare for everyone
  • Good treatment at work.

Don't use complex words.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

IIRC "ACA" and "Obamacare" had similar divides. Propaganda is a helluva drug.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

because welfare has been propagandized as used by "lazy and homeless, and poors, and blacks" its usually based on racism as well, the true welfare queens are Conservative voters.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (6 children)
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[–] plyth@feddit.org 15 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Assistance implies that it is temporary, that it is help to help themselves.

Welfare implies that it is continuous.

If you have to continually support a part of the population then you have a systemic problem. The correct solution would be to change the system. People who support the continuation of the current system either profit from it or don't see an advantage in a change.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Also, "assistance" is something that is given out of the kindness of your (or the government's) heart and that the recipient should feel gratitude (and/or have to grovel) for. "Welfare" is seen as something the recipient is entitled to as a right. FWIW I support a UBI that is adequate for food and shelter and the necessities of life - as an entitlement for everybody.

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[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you have to continually support a part of the population then you have a systemic problem.

To a point, maybe, but populations are always going to have disabled persons or people with chronic illnesses that require continual assistance to live a dignified life. Be careful not to write those people off with sweeping generalizations like this.

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[–] Pendorilan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Do parapelegics require "temporary support"? There are some people who need continual support and they're always going to exist in any society. Disabled people. And they aren't a "systemic problem".

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

there are governmental systems that would disagree on that last point.

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[–] Henson@feddit.dk 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

But it doesn't have to be the same group in the population. Probably a portion is the same but the larger picture is all those you help up again so they can help support the community/country/state, and the price is helping the group that otherwise make the community unsafe so they in large can ... act decently to others and live a life without violence

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[–] Graphy@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (26 children)

Propaganda works

I’ve always said that if you really wanted communism or socialism to take off in the states you’re gonna have to call it something else

I also don’t use cis because the machine has already made that a thing people don’t want to be called

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 2 days ago

I don’t mind being called a cis male, but I’m secure in my sexuality and manhood. Conservatives not so much.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This one gets it. The key takeaway should be that humans are very fallible and propaganda works alarmingly well.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Ah, ~40% of Americans are complete fucking morons, that sounds about right.

~40% of Americans also read and write at an elementary school level or worse, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

... I think we've found the mythical 'independent, median voter'.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Ah, ~40% of Americans are complete fucking morons, that sounds about right.

You're leaving out the 29% who are against it no matter what you call it.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

Those are seniors on social security and medicare

[–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Those are evil people, who do not want to help other people. But this 40% are the people who would do the correct thing but they are convinced it's bad and vote against their interest

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[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

54% of Americans read at below a grade 6 level.

Welfare is may litterally just mean 'moocher' to an American who has been drowned in propaganda their whole life.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Did the study define the kinds of assistance at all or was it simply the choice of terms?

“Welfare” is defined and had a lot of baggage with it. Opinion about welfare can be wildly different individually and demographically.

“Assistance” isn’t defined, people can place their own restrictions on what that hypothetical assistance is, who gets it based on their own prejudices, needs, and ideology.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They got me! I have to admit, "welfare" leaves a bad taste in my mouth where "helping the poor" sounds fair enough. I grew up under Reagan, heard the bullshit, know it's bullshit, I get it.

And you know damned well what those words really mean. Welfare = black, poor people = whites. (That's from a GenX perspective.)

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 35 points 2 days ago

Welfare = black, poor people = whites.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago (4 children)

To me the negative connotation of "welfare" is, Kafkaesque bureaucracy used to gate access. Actually being on it feels more like you are playing a fucked up game than receiving assistance.

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[–] dufkm@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So weird. As a Scandinavian, "welfare" to me means schools, healthcare, elderly care, sick pay, paid parental leave etc., paid for by the shared burden of taxes for the benefit of everyone.

It is a word with entirely positive connotations for me.

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[–] WatDabney@fedia.io 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

"Think of how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Could you share the source for the graph please?

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

People are emotional creatures.

Someone was joking in another thread, but maybe we should seriously consider just taking socialism and calling it, like, americanism.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah if you want to pitch socialism to people who don't know what it is, just describe its parts as individual policies. Don't actually use the word "socialism" - that makes the rednecks scurred >_>

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 27 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The timeline is this. The 1950s boomed and created the middle class. Why? FDR decided subsidizing the American people, instead of the robber Baron class, was the way. This subsidy approach to the working class had never happened before in American history.

A middle class cannot happen organically in a capitalist society. It requires government subsidy.

The 50s were built on the backs of women, forcibly ejecting them from workplaces to be housewives, and excluded people who were not white. But the American middle class was born due to these subsidies.

And so it went.

Then, in the 80s. The concept of the evil welfare queen was touted on the national level, and our government decided subsidizing corporate instead of a middle class was the way.

This doesn’t happen overnight, but they begin chipping away at subsidies for Middle Class America and flip those subsidies to corporate America. The belief is, or at least the sales pitch is, subsidizing corporate America is more fiscally efficient than subsidizing the middle class and will ultimately benefit everyone to create a booming, thriving nation.

And so it goes for 40 yrs. Both parties, in tandem.

The chipping away to go back to the subsidizing of a middle class started in the oddest of places. 2020. After the massive destruction of the middle class, and abject proof of how disastrous to the working class subsidizing corporate America is, absolutely squeezing everyone making less than $300k/yr, by the numbers, it was that old man’s admin that tried to shift back on the disaster. Infrastructure, junk fees, internet as an essential utility, student loan forgiveness, etc

The breadth of the problem cannot be fixed in 4 yrs. Or even 8 yrs. Consider how long it took from the 80s to truly feel the oppressive shift of the subsidy change. (I’m old. I mark ~2012-2014 when things started to feel squeezed.)

Also note that you can’t mention Reagan or trickle down economics in this or you lose people.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Americans, what a bunch of morons

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Soon there will be a critical mass of people who have nothing left to lose

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[–] Album@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Kinda like ACA/Obamacare.

I'm of the opinion Americans want help and want to help others, but get lost in political rhetoric and a culture war designed to ensure no one gets anything.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fox News: "Write that down. WRITE THAT DOWN!"

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago

Having briefed a number of senior American bureaucrats and military officers I find it best to use:

  1. words of one syllable or less.
  2. no more than three primary colours.
  3. no numbers larger than 5.
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