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Words matter.

You aren't writing an academic paper. Always use simple direct language.

  • Help the poor
  • Healthcare for everyone
  • Good treatment at work.

Don't use complex words.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 27 minutes ago

That's just associations' war.

Complex words have more specific associations. Except specific associations are easier to change via propaganda than generic associations. And people love to pretend to be smart like I do, so use complex words when they can.

This rule shouldn't be limited to outsiders. It should be used when talking to your own as well. Using compound concepts of simpler ones in discussion helps preserve understanding (and filter the kind of people not better than tankies).

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

Reagan's smear campaign on welfare is still paying dividends

[–] yarr 6 points 1 hour ago

Reminds me of how many people were really against Obamacare, but loved the Affordable Care Act.

[–] Madagaskar_sky@lemmy.world 19 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone can be poor, but only they are on welfare.

Publishers note: They usually refers to African Americans, but can be used for any suspicious minorities.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

its almost always used as negative connation against blacks, or unsavory demographics. while the people, white conservatives railing on these people are the biggest welfare queens.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

don't forget wall street and corporations. if you fuck up, congratulations now you're homeless. if they fuck up, congratulations you're gonna bail them out.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago* (last edited 15 minutes ago)

That actually follows from the traditional argument against possibility of welfare - if the state can do such help, it'll first give it to closest to it, which are the people who need it the least.

But I think with direct democracy it'd be fine. At least some middle ground would be found between those voting for "free money" and those voting so that others wouldn't get "free money". Unlike now when depending on who you are it's either always free money or always fuck you.

EDIT: In general radical political models are better thought through fundamentally. Real world ones work in arcane ways, usually not the ones publicly declared, and rely on lots of inertia to be functional. But both radical marxism (direct democracy and full on social involvement) and radical ancap (no common decisions at all, no common social involvement at all) lack such vulnerabilities. That's unfortunately the reason people with real world power don't need them. If you have real world power, you'd support the change that gives you more power or preserves what you have. So for a model to be plausible it needs to have vulnerabilities, to attract real-world support. Only disadvantaged people really want a perfect model, and they are not the ones deciding.

Hence another radical variant - radical agnosticism of political systems, try to always keep as variable and diverse mix as possible, so that power, advantage and disadvantage were more or less equally spread, allowing people to live maybe not in heaven, but not in hell too. Decision-making systems as mixed as possible, legal spaces as diverse as possible, and so on.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Don't use the buzzwords Republicans have spent decades poisoning.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

yup, including entitlements, Woke,,,,etc.

[–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 35 minutes ago* (last edited 34 minutes ago)

Entitlements is a weird one. A person who wrongly believes they are entitled to money/power/respect is "entitled" in a derogatory sense. A person who has paid into the Social Security and Medicare programs for three or four decades is truly, genuinely, entitled to the payout of those programs.

And Republicans believing entitlement programs are bad, when so many of them are dependent on these programs to maintain a basic standard of living, is an astounding level of doublethink.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Psychological damage is present.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody is immune to propaganda

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

Yup, I consider myself better than most at critical thinking, playing devil's advocate, and identifying sources of propaganda. I'll still find myself getting overly agitated and upset when I read five articles and posts within thirty minutes that all tell me why to be upset and who to be upset with.

[–] Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world 29 points 22 hours ago

As someone that works with the general public.

People are fucking dumb. Like not I'm not even kidding, there's a skill gap to even get to a site like this...and not everyone has the ability to do it...I'm not even kidding. People are just stupid.

[–] NoMadLadNZ@lemmy.nz 23 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Yep. Never use a ten dollar word when a 50 cent one does the job better. The left wing needs to dump it's highbrow (and cringe celebrity endorsements) and use the language of the common people in simple terms that cannot be demonised (or would sound insane to try).

Also, this is a prime example of how demonising words, especially buzzwords, is the strategy they use to make it lose all rationality with the public... the notion of being "woke" originally a good thing, welfare a good thing, etc...

[–] Sheldan@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

They managed to make DEI a divisive word, I presume because they always used the abbreviation, because how else can you poison these words.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Sadly, more than 50% of Americans a grade school vocabulary. Imagine trying to convince a kid in grade 6 that helping the poor is not bad.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 hours ago

Ngl but most of the kids have no problems with helping other people.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Doesn't work, they take the cheap words too. "Fake news" was originally used for right-wing propaganda. The only solution is education so that future generations are more aware of and resistant to dog whistles and doublespeak.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Just want to point out that this negative association is based on racist dog whistles like the, "welfare queen," which were propagated by right-wingers to convince low-income whites to hate the programs designed to help them.

[–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

And I think theres a place to break that association, but .aybe candidates that are running to change our system dont need to be the ones to do it.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I would actually say that would he a great strategy in building working-class solidarity. Making poor whites realize that their declining standard of living isn't caused by minorities accessing social programs but the ruling-class gutting the those programs is key to building a progressive coalition.

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I get the critical comments here, but I think there's a basic association of the word "welfare" with the CURRENT system of assistance which leaves too many people out. Democrats have made the current apparati too hard to qualify for with their means-testing. If they were sincere in working for the masses, they would push more universal programs, but at least on the national level, they are bought out by the same corporations as the Republicans.

[–] S0ck@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Democrats have made the current apparati too hard to qualify for with their means-testing.

I kind of doubt that democrats are the ones who MADE it too hard, but they definitely are the ones that preserve it's difficulty.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The issue is entirely a media problem. Can you tell yet?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Did the study define the kinds of assistance at all or was it simply the choice of terms?

“Welfare” is defined and had a lot of baggage with it. Opinion about welfare can be wildly different individually and demographically.

“Assistance” isn’t defined, people can place their own restrictions on what that hypothetical assistance is, who gets it based on their own prejudices, needs, and ideology.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 10 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Nah, see, you're falling into the trap. "Welfare" has baggage only because conservatives have attached baggage to it via their relentless propaganda campaigns. In practice, welfare is literally just assistance. In practice, the two words are synonymous. The fact that you perceive a difference in them is evidence that the conservative propaganda is working.

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[–] plyth@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Assistance implies that it is temporary, that it is help to help themselves.

Welfare implies that it is continuous.

If you have to continually support a part of the population then you have a systemic problem. The correct solution would be to change the system. People who support the continuation of the current system either profit from it or don't see an advantage in a change.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Assistance implies that it is temporary,

Not it does not. Ever heard of "aim assist"? "Assisted living"? "assistive touch" (the iOS feature)? I don't see how any of these are temporary.

But yeah the correct solution is indeed to change the system. There will always be naysayers who argue that "no one system can suit everybody" so I guess we'll need a system of systems.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Also, "assistance" is something that is given out of the kindness of your (or the government's) heart and that the recipient should feel gratitude (and/or have to grovel) for. "Welfare" is seen as something the recipient is entitled to as a right. FWIW I support a UBI that is adequate for food and shelter and the necessities of life - as an entitlement for everybody.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

41% of the population would object, together with 29% who don't support assistance at all. If you want UBI in a democratic society you have to sell it differently.

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[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If you have to continually support a part of the population then you have a systemic problem.

To a point, maybe, but populations are always going to have disabled persons or people with chronic illnesses that require continual assistance to live a dignified life. Be careful not to write those people off with sweeping generalizations like this.

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