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[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fuck Tumblr. Fuck WordPress. Fuck Automattic. And fuck Matt.

Tumblr has some interesting content from users, but the platform is awful and it's even worse since Automattic bought it. Also, the trend to put the entire contents of the post in hashtags is flat-out stupid and infuriating.

Automatic is a tremendously terrible company, and Matt is an egotistical pile of garbage.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 82 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At this point I'm convinced that the Fediverse integration is just a means of marketing for them. Everyone should boycott the cockteasing bastards.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m not sure of what I’m talking about exactly, but I vaguely suspect that integrating with the fediverse will make some of their less ethical practices at tumbler too transparent and obvious.

But that is one part hunch and one part cynical belief, I don’t know of the details

[–] scsi@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's your personal lifetime of experience saying "if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck..."

Tumblr is a for profit company like many of their peers in the social media industry. They will latch onto anything of perceived value and suck it dry for their own gain then toss it aside when no longer useful to their profit margins

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am more surprised than I should be at how quickly the Fedi pitch went from "we want a future where everything is interoperable everywhere" to "we don't want any interaction with for profit companies".

I don't mind either way, it's all bad and I shouldn't be here in the first place, but... you know, it's weird seeing social patterns develop in real time.

[–] scsi@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I am more surprised than I should be at how quickly the Fedi pitch went from “we want a future where everything is interoperable everywhere” to “we don’t want any interaction with for profit companies”.

A non-zero number of these companies are opportunists looking to fediwash their profile (just like ecowashing, pridewashing and so forth. Hell even Blueksy, the media darling of "we're fedi we promise!" is already engaging in Blue Checks(tm) and ads in streams. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Specifically, what is Tumblr really worth without all it's advertising and web controls to limit content viewing without forcing an account? (hello, Instagram) Adding bidirectional ActivityPub to Tumblr would basically render the site useless, who would subject themselves to that trash heap of a website when they could get the actual content from, say, a Lemmy instance? s/Tumblr/Reddit == samesame

For profit companies who have built walled gardens and wish to stay that way (reddit, tumblr, meta, linkedin, etc.) are at ethical odds with the ActivityPub world, insofar as people are trying vehemently to get away from these companies. But you'll notice for profit companies who are within the ideals of Fedipeople (for example Nitro, or Tuta, or Proton, or Mullvad) do not get griefed due to alignment of values and morals of the communities in question.

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 1 points 13 minutes ago

[bluesky] is already engaging in Blue Checks(tm)

Isn't this good, to make sure whoever the account is, is the genuine person? Or is it bad because the arbiter of said genuineness is bluesky, and I assume there's a payment for it?

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 0 points 10 hours ago

Cool.

But the pitch wasn't "everything will be interoperable unless the company doesn't mean it or wants to make money or we aren't "morally aligned", whatever that means".

I don't understand how you can be a "walled garden" and still feature interoperability with a set of open source platforms under a pre-established set protocol. This is not an ethical problem or a problem of ideology, those two things are mutually exclusive.

This also sounds a whole lot like it disproves skrlet13's point on the heterogeneous Fedi where everything fits under different but overlapping bubbles. Seems to me you think Fedi has the one moral and ethical position on this.

[–] skrlet13@feddit.cl 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Fedi is not homogeneus. Each server interacts with who it wants. You could say multiple fedis exist at the same time, and both pitches represent different people.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, well, don't tell them. The fields of Mastodon are still full of the debris of the Great Threads Arguments. Seemed to me everybody thought they had the correct and only Fedi.

Yeah their plans have been on and off for years now. Just ignore anything they say.

[–] kyonshi@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No shit. AFAIK Tumblr us circling the drain as it is and barely able to keep the lights on

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's the point of being "advertiser friendly" of everyone leaves because of it.

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 1 points 10 minutes ago

It makes shareholders feel a simulacra of emotion for a brief moment.

[–] Supernova1051@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Alternative title: Tumblr tumbles

[–] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Without porn tumblr is shit

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"I still want to do it, but I was just informed there's....PORN ON THERE GASP !" ~Tumblr CEO, probably

(Reference)

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

They did want it to be the new PDF.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Might be a sign fediverse isn't gaining momentum.

[–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Or might be a sign that capitalists wanna keep on siloing their networks once the hype has cooled down.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago

Or Automattic doesn't have enough employees left to implement it

[–] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Might be because they're down to 25 staff members

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Or that Tumblr is Tumblr....

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 4 points 1 day ago

It's just less hyped now compared to days of reddit API change and Twitter going to Elon Musk.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

i remember when they announced that tumblr would be migrating to wordpress for the backend, and both tumblr and wordpress engineers said in unison "this is a terrible idea"

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If this happens, does this mean I have to see tumblr posts on Lemmy?

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 day ago

If you subscribe to someone on tumblr then yes. Otherwise i dont think so.

[–] froufox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago
[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Damn, where am I going to find unhinged opinions in wafer-thin niches within wafer-thin niches. Fursuit tax advocacy needs broader awareness

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago