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The policy says that ICE field offices are not subject to a federal law that allows members of Congress to make unannounced oversight visits to immigration facilities that “detain or otherwise house aliens.”

In short, ICE policy is to illegally use the threat of shooting to keep elected Democrats from being able to make inspections they're legally allowed to make

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[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

So, they're announcing themselves to be an even more illegitimate organization.

All should be arrested and tried for sedition.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 hours ago

Thanks. Weird autocorrect.

[–] griff@lemmings.world 5 points 12 hours ago

*tried & heavily sedated

[–] match@pawb.social 11 points 12 hours ago

Boot them the fuck out of my state, and your state, and every state where the Democrats still have any measure of power

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 19 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Once again, people can say "this is illegal" all they want.

But nobody seems to be willing or able to actually do anything about it. Chuck Schumer can call it a "silly piece of paper" all he wants, but right now he and his colleagues are being held off by that silly piece of paper.

Is anyone going to do anything about it? No. Is anyone going to force their way into these facilities? No. Is anyone in ICE going to face consequences for spinning this policy out of whole cloth? No. Which means, for all intents and purposes, what they're doing is de-facto legal.

Which means, for all intents and purposes, what they're doing is de-facto legal.

Your post is right on everything, but I'll note that what it means is we live in a de-facto lawless state.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Yet again it’s Congress that has to act, Congress that is giving up their authority without a fight. This policy does not affect pretty much any of us. If only there were Congress people demanding transparency, accountability, human rights, it would affect them. They’re not only the ones affected, they’re the ones who can say “LoL, no”

US Congress people are among the most powerful elected officials in the effing world, or they were. I don’t know why they prefer to settle for just going along, while bickering endlessly while favoring their corporate masters. wtf, stand up like you always claim. And no, standing up against a high school athlete is not a substitute for standing up for your constituents, your society, your own goddam list for power which somehow doesn’t matter anymore

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 64 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

ICE is not some super police organization we need to put these people in their fucking place

[–] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

And, incidentally, was never granted authority for this kinda crap. But the legislature has been neutralized, at least in terms of who's in charge.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 17 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Simply put: most Democrats in congress are giant pussies.

If we lived in a more sane world, our Democratic representatives in Congress would be breaking down the doors.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net -3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

That's easy to say when you aren't the one facing a group with body armor and guns.

Politicians do not train as SWAT teams

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Usually I agree when it's regular citizens critiquing other regular citizens for not starting an armed rebellion. I find that line of thinking disingenuous.

But we should have higher expectations of our elected officials. Congressmen have power and they are expected to use it to benefit their constituents.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve never heard “easy for you to say” more in my life than I have from Americans in the past six months.

Sucks having everyone suggest that at some point you have to live up to your stated values.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

some of us are willing to do a whole lot more than others

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -1 points 6 hours ago

Let’s see

[–] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org -4 points 15 hours ago

Nobody in Washington deserves to be defended, not do any of them deserve our respect.

None of them are on our side anyway.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

A simple dox will do. Righteousness will take care of the rest.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Revoke all of their citizenships