The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
MAGA complain about govt spending is off the walls.
MAGA create DOGE to cut a lot of "government waste".
MAGA waste taxpayer funds on parades and security theater.
MAGA has ICE arrest children at school, old people in court houses.
If you're hampering ICE right now, keep it up.
Ways to hamper:
“1bn over budget” seems like they have already run out of money?
People and organizations operating in billions don't run out of money. They just wait to "secure more funding."
The scary part is that with this kind of sliding towards fascism ......
They'll probably come up with some weird obscure, illegal, undemocratic way to fund their ICE machine .... taking over property, taking control of assets, seizing bank accounts, just generally stealing money from those they can to keep doing what they're doing.
Look at Nazi Germany ... we keep referring to that history ... it keeps happening ... we point it out ... no one does anything.
Nazi Germany initially got direct help and financing from industrial and corporate Europe and North America to get on its feet. How the hell do you think Germany who was forbidden from building a military got to build a massive invasion force in front of everyone's eyes for years before the start of the first invasion?
Once Nazi Germany got enough power, financing and control of everything ... they just started outright stealing everyone's money, property, bank accounts and assets starting with Jews they persecuted ... then they started moving down the line to more and more people, companies and corporations to steal from everywhere.
I mean the US police agencies already have a law in place that allows them to outright steal everyone's property and have been abusing it for some time now.
But therein also lies the difference. And I say this not to deride your absolutely necessary call for action, but to offer a measure of hope; Nazi Germany was smart enough to maintain good relationships with the rest of the world until they were ready to start pressing ahead with their plans full speed. Trump's government has the same goals, but fails to even clear the disastrously low bar of competence set by the Nazis. Where the Nazis built international relations, Trump is tearing them down. Where the Nazis used borrowed money and borrowed time to build up their economy, Trump is destroying what little domestic production America had in his hamfisted attempts to make more.
The Nazis got away with it for so long because, ultimately, they were popular, and they were - seemingly - making Germany better. Trump has entirely failed to replicate their success in this regard. Nothing on the scale of the No Kings protests ever happened in Nazi Germany.
The American people can win this. It is not too late to reclaim your country.
with this kind of sliding towards fascism
You are already there, there is no 'kind of' about it.
I think they meant 'kind of' as in 'type of', not as in 'sort of'.
And there is the part that both left and right kind of ignored; deporting a thousand people costs millions, deporting a million people costs billions. Deporting 20 million people wrecks your economy for both cost and now-missing labor.
It's economic suicide that any sane leader would have seen coming from a suns distance away, but here we are with cheeto
The way the Nazis did it was they at first had the Jews pay for the privilege of being extradited, with most of what they owned.
Later on their tactics evolved a bit more and more.
DOGE? ....hello? Is DOGE around? ... Hello?
It was always about stealing from social spending while raiding data for blackmail.
Oh you were looking for DOGE? Let me transfer you now...
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I'm not sure we want to know the Psychopaths Ideas on reducing deportation costs
Thank goodness we have an administration with well thought out plans to reduce government spending. 🤦🏻♂️
Hooray, they'll run out of money soon. Hooray, they'll cut services to make us pay for the shortfall. Hooray, we're completely fucked.
SO? WHY do you Think they ELIMINATED my Social Security, VA Benefits, Job and Child's Education? This is AFFORDABLE now!
BigMacHole out here doing the LORD's work
Someone should tell the Department of Government Efficiency that they have been staying in The Hilton. Probably flying first class too.
They haven't found their Adolf Eichmann
~~Abolish ICE!~~ Defund ICE!